ivan

you might vote for emperors, i usually vote for presidents - i didn't much think that mitt was gonna be any better on this subject either, though perhaps you live in a fantasy world where you think otherwise? meanwhile, liberal groups like the aclu continue to be very active on this issue while your side is....is...doing what again (besides drooling to imagine what it'll do w/ the police state when it has it firmly under it's control again?)

yeah, 'cuz like not a single person on the left has been pissed about the nsa revelations of late (or the drone program)

sheeeeit, mike, they got this here "rest of the universe" forum for tr's - i for one would like to keep up w/ yer exploits n' i'm not migrating to facefuck most of my pic headaches come from the first step of cutting them down to a size that will load

trotsky...hmmm...what's your problem w/ him, eh? he didn't like stalin, you don't like stalin. he was opposed to the senseless slaughter of ww1, hard to fault. shit, he even managed to live in new york city w/o blowing the place up. and what climber can't think it's cool he was murdered w/ an ice-axe? a trotsky statue in fremont would be way more hotsky...specially if the ice-axe was lodged in his cranium

not defending that old-boy as i never met'em n' he don't much seem to need help - just can't help but make the connection between you n' general ripper when you seem to see commies hiding behind every bottle of perrier that said, if this thread is to be some sorta modern-day committee for unamerican activities, you might feel free to Put the Question to poor prole as to what he thinks about tovarisch lenin's likeness in the emerald city

you been having problems w/ yer bodily fluids lately eff-dubya?

cc.raytard4lyfez!!!

my name is inigo montoya you killed my avatar prepare to die

wise sir do not grieve it is always better to avenge dear ones than to indulge in mourning for every one of us living in this world means waiting for our end let he who can achieve glory before death when a warrior is gone that will be his best and only bulwark i think the lad lived up to this admonition most admirably!

you must be a very tedious person to deal w/ on a daily basis if i'm no good at promoting communism its probably b/c....wait for it...i'm not? nor have i known a single one of my libturd friends to quote das kapital or the little red book - feel free to keep telling me what i actually think though

them bastards at nwhikers? ahh, the endless fascination w/ reminiscing about golden ages that never were....

commie or not, i wouldn't wish the deep south on anyone as for "no use for commies" stalingrad sure would contradict that dip-tard notion

I like the Troll link OFF science! proving shit everybody knew already since 17-somethingorother.

a living, breathing dinosaur ladies n' gents

lenin was not the droid you were looking for

i think we've just finally solved this whole politics thing that and you can't say "cock-sucker" anymore

wasn't thomas jefferson a social theorist? and the very roosevelt feller so recently quoted? in fact, isn't anybody who gives a thought as to the ideal society, be it the status quo or something else, dabbling in said theory?

charlie don't text. spring break's april 4-13 - utard! i wanna do the desert shield. any weekend in march is fine 'cept the 15-16th as that's the boy's bday.

certainly the humble box-jellyfish is no fellow to trifle w/...

i'm not screaming for one either, but as the both of us are maxed out on the pay scale, every year the COLA goes unfunded we instead get the very opposite. our pay's decreased 16% in real dollars since the legislature started ignoring the law...

ditto. in my 15 years i've seen only a handful of crap teachers, and they all made quick exits as the job eats you alive when you're a cheap hack at it. my favorite was "big mama" perez, the spanish teacher that got hired at the inner-city school i was at - the position had been open for weeks unfilled 'cuz no god-fearing 'merican had the balls to wander into that environment unarmed - so the school hired a guy from mexico around christmas, his only qualifications being that he spoke spanish and had a heartbeat - after two weeks he started calling in sick - the first week he left "big mama's house II" as his sub plan - the second week he left the same movie...still in english - the third week he stopped leaving anything and we never saw him again....

lol. OK, so it's annoying because the website makes you subscribe if you have more than like 5 views, which makes it hard to average any kind of numbers -- but I assumed you must have done this since you certainly wouldn't have just jumped to the conclusion that "I see a whole lotta $70-$85k" just by glancing at the first page of 20 employees out of tens of thousands, right? so imagine my surprise when I discovered that a) it's pretty easy to bypass their registration screen and even query their database yourself and b) the average pay for teaching positions is not anywhere near what you suggest it is. Weird, right? Not sure how TTK's pet jellyfish derives average from I see a lotta, but hey, the point remains that teacher's poverty claims are questionable--at best. Especially given their 180+ a few schedule. As to Ivan's more thoughtful response, well, I agree it's total bullshit that a salary sort for, say, Seattle SD reveals pages of admin jobs (non-union, even!) that are pulling down more than the state Governor. Not to mention the guaranteed pension and health benefits that the common folk in the private sector no longer enjoy... wait, i though I was tvash's jellyfish?!? or was it lapdog? quite the menagerie that boy's putting together... good graph for showing the effect of unions on teacher pay - note the sunny union-busting glory that is the south - the first state i taught in, north carolina, was the worst paying state in the nation when i started - i see things haven't improved much - makes sense that some of the folks i knew from back then are still living w/ their parents - now there's an american dream come true! admins and paraprofesionals have unions too, actually, though the admin one is weird, given that in many districts it's made out of only a handful of members- their union has way more clout then mine as you correctly noted - way higher pay, much better benefits it sucks that so many private sector jobs have non-existent or shitty benefits - isn't improving their lot a better solution than dragging public employees down into the same swamp?

keep in mind folks in this database are not all members of my union - you also have paraprofessionals (teacher's aides and the like) and adminstrators (principals, head office types, etc)

i've only been a union member for 10 years but have never seen such a situation that you describe jay - what were the details of your guy's departure? parents routinely choose which school will get their money by choosing which school district they wish to buy a house and settle down in - i'm not rabidly opposed to school vouchers either - doesn't seem like they've made a big difference where they've been used and it seems like it just ends up adding admin and overhead, but whatever - give me a room and some kids and i'll make it work... the failure of the washington state congress to provide funding for the voter approved cost of living adjustments for the past half-decade has hurt, i assure you, but my union hasn't walked off the job.

and for pretty similar to reasons to what fdr stated - The People already have your best interests in mind, so what do you need to organize for? for my part, i don't think the union should be all powerful in the education world. it's one governmental entity that needs balancing by others. we advocate for our interests, the admins for theirs and the politicians in theory for everybody else. it's hard to have faith that The People (through their representatives) will look after all my interests since a decent number of them aren't really supportive of public education to begin with and would be perfectly happy to drown the baby.