Gary_Yngve

The hardest part would not be doing the route (it seems much of the wetness avoids the route itself) but getting to it... I think there were some washouts on the road near there.

Most everyone here has probably already seen them, but Second Ascent has a really cool display of old hexes (and other curious gear).

Making the robots drill would be pretty easy. The hard part would be sorting the hexes, that is, getting the hexes aligned and placed in a fixed position to be drilled blindly. Usually some clever mechanical contraptions can sort without any active control necessary.

What BD needs then is the hole-drilling robot!

I've only seen them in May/June, which is, I assume, when the eggs hatch in Spring? Seems like the summit blocks get maximum sun.

I agree. If I'm going on a trip to Canada with other folks, either they all have proper ID or I'm not going. It's really not worth the hassle and waste of time just to get turned around.

Right, you asked the US border guard. Not sure if the same holds for the Canadian border guard. When we turned around and headed back to the US border crossing, the guards there were honestly surprised that we had gotten turned around and felt sorry for us.

Depending on the terrain you are on, you may want more double runners. An easier terrain, you can often find trees, horns, chockstones, etc. Someone in another thread joked that with the grade 5.x, the number of pieces you take is x. There is definitely some truth to that, as in, you may need a large piece to protect a wide 5.6 move, but if you are comfortable with doing the move, you'll be fine with having a smaller piece in ten feet below.

Could Beck do that for me and get the mayor to sign it?

Maybe you looked like privileged whiners. Those of us who don't have your Jessica Simpson looks get hassled routinely. In any case, crossing North is comparatively easy if you hold off on the attitude. Getting back into the US is like getting into an Alabama hunting lodge. I have no idea who the fuck Jessica Simpson is. We had no attitude. We answered all their questions promptly and politely. We had shit like this happen: Guard: What do you have for ID? Jon (not cc.com Jon): I have a DL and a photocopy of my birth certificate. Guard: You see what that says? <points to birth certificate>. It says P-H-O-T-O-C-O-P-Y. And the rules say P-H-O-T-O-C-O-P-I-E-S not allowed.

None of us had an arrest record. Our rejection papers listed the reason as insufficient ID.

But what happens if you lose your birth certificate? Are you then forever fucked? If you can get an original birth certificate with just a DL, then why can't you get into Canada with just a DL?

Yep, that was them. Mike can send.

I got turned away at the US border last summer because I only had a DL, which is essentially all that Gary had. Not to nitpick, but I had my passport. Two of the other folks in the car just had DL and photocopy of birth certificate*. We were all a bunch of white, born-in-America college students. Our van was full of climbing gear. We didn't look like a bunch of terrorists or drug traffickers (not that anyone smuggles pot into Canada...). *They had both used that combination at least a dozen times this past summer... going to Selkirks, Bugs, Coast, coming back from Alaska....

We had an official document. A document from Canada saying they turned our asses around.

Yes. You have to have: passport or drivers license + certified copy of birth certificate

I know a long-time Mountaineer climb leader who ties in exclusively with a bowline with Yos finish.

The unbelievable happened. We pulled into the border crossing on the way to Penticton, with half of our car having passports and the other half having drivers licenses and unofficial photocopies of birth certificates. They wouldn't let us in. The border crossing dude was extremely rude and disrespectful, despite the fact that we were being polite. We've all gotten into Canada countless times before, even in the past month, but this time we got screwed. We then tried the crossing fifteen miles away in Nighthawk, and the border guard yelled at us for shopping for a crossing (the other place warned them) and threatened to have us banned from Canada for ten years. What the fuck? We managed to salvage the weekend with some cragging at Leavenworth, but we missed out with hooking up with the other UW car and the VOC folk in Skaha.

Napalm is aid.

climbing computer game: http://pc.ign.com/articles/163/163720p1.html

no shite! 80some posts about cracked? cripes and i thought i had no life! It weren't all about Cracked. Some of it was about Trogdor and some of it was about Chimpanzees and some of it was about dictionaries and some of it was about how most people on this site seem to think that Beck is a wanker and some of it was even about CLIMBING! ...at least it was mentioned anyway. I went climbing today! Yeah me. I led the route Goran Kropf died on. It's pretty easy, but the cams do seem a bit sketchy in it. I scored a booty cam on it! Yeah me again. End of TR. The cams seemed to be pretty bomber to me, aside from the thin shit at the bottom. Though I didn't place anything larger than a blue camelot. I'm surprised someone left a booty cam on it... it's not like they couldn't have walked to the top to clean up... but if you scored, you scored!

Sporto, you're going to Skaha with us next week. Consider that an order.

The browsers won't fight each other, but what you may find is things don't look as good in mozilla as IE because dumbasses wrote their websites to cater only to IE. I'm a linux freak, and in general I dislike M$, but I use IE as my browser in Windows because it works the best. Google may have some anti-popup stuff....

Chad was disappointed that he won the comp but didn't get to summit. So he summited the peak a few days later. That shows me his attitude. I agree that there is some sort of contrived silliness behind these speed comps, but who could turn down a trip to the Tien Shen?

cool, found a ride... see yall there!