I am RURP, former lurker who has briefly returned to base camp after a lifetime of Big Wall dedication. You, Lamebone, what is with this?: "at the time I WAS YOUNG and unaware of European tactics. That kind of behavior may be the norm in Europe, but this is our home turf, and they should play by our rules..This experience left a very bad taste in my mouth towards foriegn climbers." How old are you, Lambone? Twenty, Twenty-one, perhaps? You are still in Big Wall diapers. And I do not want to know what you put in your mouth, mister, but how about a few pleasant words to foreign guests? You said it was not an issue but you made sure we knew that it was Koreans and Austrians who irritated you. And I would guess you wouldn't know the Austrian national anthem if you heard it. Did it sound like this: “Ja, vi elsker dette landet, som det stiger frem,”? It did? Then they were from the Norway! If they were from Austria it goes like this, junior: “Land der Berge, Land am Strome, Land der Äcker, Land der Dome, Land der Hämmer, zukunftsreich! Heimat bist du großer Söhne, Volk, begnadet für das Schöne, Vielgerühmtes Österreich.” Did you like the song? Did you tap your foot to the rhythm against the haul-bag which you overpacked so it slowed you down? And you think they (foreigners) should "play by our rules"? By reading the posts on this web-site, there doesn't seem to be too many rules in American climbing that anyone agrees upon. Americans in general tend not to be great examples when they are abroad and go about as if they are still at home and know what's best, so now it's a taste of your own medicine. And by the way, be unjustifiably rude to a foreigner here and abroad and maybe you've just created the next anti-American hoodlum. And you, Schlangeschlurper or whatever...what is with the phony German thing? Are you trying to convince everyone that you took a couple of quarters of German in High School so that we'll think you're somewhat educated despite your rude comments? Is this like Lamebone's repeated attempts to remind of that he has been big-walling in the Himalaya? Back to sorting gear: RURP has a couple of walls to finish today before the sun sets. RURP HAS SPOKEN
[ 12-10-2001: Message edited by: RURP ]