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Muscle cars don't represent over 50% of the vehicles on the road, that's why. They also don't contribute to so many traffic fatalities either. Quite simple.

I'm not sure why you came in with this argument, but I'll answer it anyway. I think the idea of a democratic form of government was as alien to all parts of the world as it might now seem to the middle-east arab countries. (I personally think that Bush has no interest in seeing democratization happen, but this in itself won't keep it from happening.) Did I ever tell you about Iran? They democratically elected a leader in the fifties, but that leader's policies didn't jibe with the US administration's. So, enter a coup, with the Shah propped into place. Just a little aside that might help to further explain the absolute mockery that Bush's speeches are met with in the middle east. "They" don't like us much, for damn good reasons! When democracy threatened our interests, we quashed it! It's much easier to negotiate with a singular power-holder than with a representative government; one is much easier to buy off and control. I think this is the reason our administration would have no desire for a democratization of the middle east. We very well know what the people would put into power: a nationalist who would exploit all the previous aggressions of the west, which would entirely fuck us, due to our dependence on their natural resources. I really have to say that I can't understand this war. The more I look at it, the less it makes sense, unless I am to believe that it's COMPLETELY about the oil, baby. And I guess that's what it's really all about.

I know, but when a guy brings a woman's sexuality into play, in a fashion that might or might not suggest rape, I find it beyond contempt. There's too much history there, IMO. But, he is in third grade still, right? We try so hard to teach them....

Hey Allison, I tend to fully agree with your sentiments here: I honestly couldn't believe the total lack of integrity in captain caveman's post. And you know what's even worse? The men here who are coming to his defense, although it's a very limited number. I guess they just haven't understood. I suppose I was really lucky to have a mom that really helped me to figure out what it can be like to grow up as a woman in a patriarchal society where at one point rape was not even considered illegal. (It'd be nice if all people could see the harm that's been done to them, and the harm they perpetuate as a result.) Hope you're ok.

What's that, toptimmy? bad reception from Everett around here....

on NPR! Check it!

Foo'!

Trask, you simpleton. Have you never any idea what you speak of? No, no, of course not. I sincerely apologize for suggesting it might be otherwise. A beer for you. Enjoy.

Golden buildings in the sky, I think?

It's over now. Satire. It wasn't really Bush, just some funny sln-style comedy. More going on now.

Tune in, it's comedy.

right now, and he's a pretty funny guy!

What was Robert's 13c solo like? I heard he did a 13d solo too, but don't know anything about it. Someone just soloed Body Count(?) at American Fork, 13d. Everything there is quite short though.

I've been sick for over a week now. I doubt it's SARS. Just some fever, really sore throat, headache, yellow pus dripping out my nose. But my throat's getting tickly, along with my bronchial tubes. Hmmmm.... Time to see the doc?

It's been Armageddon since the day you were born, flask.

I understand it happens a lot, but why? do these people just not pay attention to the fact that they are runing out of rope? Or do they not look down and see that their rope isn't long enough? I know I'll just rapel to the end and jump, thats a great Idea... One of my partners who is strong, smart, and competent did this exact thing. He was climbing in Zion and it had gotten dark. The guidebook said the rap was 55m but was actually like 70m. He rapped off two 60's and went right off the end. Took a bad fall and got fucked up. Could have been avoided by a little more prudence, but, shit, it happens to the best of us. Same fella who ended up with his hand operated on? Good guy, that Eric.

I'm surprised you didn't tell him to get off. Especially if he didn't ask for permission.

I think the Utne Reader understands a conservative point-of-view just fine; CONSERVATIVES don't understand a conservative point-of-view, and that seems to be the problem.

Point taken, especially with a subject that relies so much on one's perspective. My point was that many consider Afghanistan to be as bad off as it was before the US invasion, perhaps even worse off. Karzai is widely referred to as the Mayor of Kabul; the rest of the country is in the hands of the war-lords. Where's the money for rebuilding the country? Karzai would like to know.... Oh, and did I say that Al Qaeda is rebuilding its training camps along the Afghani/Pakistani border? Business is good, too, with all the shit that the US is exporting.... I tend to think that the world is an awfully big place for one country to patrol militarily, don't you think? And the more you patrol, the more you NEED to patrol. Quite an equation....

Warning: The following information is not intended for the maladroit pro-war malcontents seen lurking around here recently. But for others who are interested in what the other side of the world thinks, this might be interesting. I had searched for this before, but I guess the english version was a recent addition.

What's with all the negative commentary regarding sheep? The Chinese even have a Year of the Sheep, which a friend of mine was born in. Sheep are beautiful creatures, as much of God as any other. And wolves don't do what they want; they simply react to given conditions. This is really what all animals do, including humans. (Some humans develop the ability to analyse and contextualize, though.) So in other words: Leave the Sheep Alone!

Speculation? Funny how I just talked to a few, and most of Bush Sr.'s military cabinet was/is opposed to the war. I guess you didn't hear Schwartzkoff (remember him?) opine earlier? He was opposed to this war also.

Gee. How many war vets oppose this war? Another fact you so neatly elide.

There isn't a single "coalition" (hah! US, British, and 2,000 Australian!) soldier who is protecting my sorry ass. As far as I'm concerned, all they're doing is making the world more dangerous for my sorry ass. Thanks for the heart-felt concern though.

And congrats on the spitting. A real show of class! So American of you, with your support of opinional differences....