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You know what I'm really tired of? Wooden chairs with cloth liners. Carpet cleaners also. And what about those Mariners anyway?

Your form of racism is really one of the most insidious: "All ethnicities are really as equal and as worthy as me, as long as they conform to MY norms and MY values."

Ahh nice! so you have one example to back your claim that you're not stereo-typing! Hip hip hooray! And wow, you hang out with different ethnicities! But, I really don't see the above multi-culturalism as a counter-argument to what I see as your subconscious racist tendencies. Sorry.

goddam, must be an extra tendon or sumthin'. put that gun down and pass me another goddam beer, before i fuck my mom agin.

And furthermore robrob.... i believe your first objection was my claim that native americans had a right to land claims; you said it had been "a hundred years", so they should just get over it. Why do you think the Kurds' land claims are more relevant? Please answer.... Trask: from what I've heard, you are intimately aware of the answer to that question....

I disagree wholeheartedly. Saddam waged a long (and bloody) campaign in an attempt to assimilate the Kurds and strip them of their ethnic heritage. This attempt was entirely consistent with the US' methods in dealing with our own ethnic minorities. I'm curious as to why YOU think this is so....(I like the part of all of the asian immigrants becoming doctors! Stereotyping is SO hard to overcome!)

Nice! I expected something like this as a reaction! "Those darn Injuns....what are they whining about now? Can't they just accept that we wiped 'em out and took their land? It was a fair fight, and we just showed 'em white man's superiority. Still showing it, by god!" Hey, maybe the indians coulda gone over to Iraq and showed the Kurds and the Shias how to set up Casinos! Cuz we have now concluded that their clamor for an independent homeland was silly; they should have just gotten over it, and blended into Iraqi society! Thanks, RobBob, for the insightful clarification! (Now what shall we do about those pesky black people?)

hardly surprising, really. Saddam suppressed the cessationist ambitions of both the Kurds and the Shias in a most cruel way; do you really think you'd find much support for him within these groups? Of course not. I'm not sure what your point is in even bringing this up.... Remember when AIM (american indian movement) began to agitate for greater awareness and independence for native americans, back in the '70's? A pretty quick reaction from the feds, i'd say. How many Natives were killed in the ensuing slaughter? (And I believe one fbi agent was killed, and now leonard peltier still sits in prison as the fall guy.) My point with the above example is that if any ethnic group began a militant attempt at securing territory here in the US, they would experience a fate not unlike the Kurds and the Shias did in Iraq. And believe me, the Native Americans have as good a cause to agitate for independence as the Kurds have had in Iraq!

JayB, get your facts straight: Bush is not Hitler, yet he eats babies for breakfast. And what is this apologist drivel about who armed whom? France and Russia (Soviet Union) aren't playing the hypocrisy game that the US is; plus in no way am I supporting the arms trade anyway. And furthermore, I have never seen a more contemptible apologist for US foreign policy than you, sir; I suppose next you'll make some sort of reactionary claim that opposition to the civil rights movement was justified because state control is more important than individual rights? Of course you will....

in reply to fairweather: no it doesn't. Yes it can, and should, in that our military performs the function of securing vital assets, and creating a climate conducive to what I call fiscal neo-empery (although the "neo" prefix isn't needed). 1. i agree, and in this they have shared the most base tribal sentiments that the concept of nationalism has to offer. Furthermore, i don't quite understand your segue into how we "lured" someone here with "no real limits on attainable riches." I would argue that our entire foreign policy is based on the fact that "riches" are quite limited, forcing us in our greed into an incredibly base end-game which will necessarily result in the continuing havoc that we foment internationally. 2. the treaty was still quite pertinent; do you really think that a resumption in the research of nuclear technology leads to a safer world for your children? perhaps you do; i don't. 3. Iraq, by any legal definition, was a sovereign state. The invasion, by any legal definition, was illegal. I know that international law has become somewhat secondary in today's brave new world, unless it serves the policy aims of the US.... 4. Hitler seized power with the aid of a cowed and compliant body politic; he was in no position to threaten anyone with death initially. Only after power had been given to him did he usurp total extra-legal control. I believe the congressional vote was an atrocity on par with what happened in Germany (as was the vote authorizing Bush to use military force); congress should NEVER relinquish this much control to a president. What they did was cowardly and absolutely myopic. 5. "you are either with us or against us." Pretty effective, really. 6. Read "Mein Kampff", or any of Hitler's demagogic masterpieces. 7. Please! The detention of the individuals at Guantanamo is entirely outside the protocols of the Geneva Conventions! That's why the US refuses to call them "prisoners of war"! 8. Well, it is true that www.pnac.org is part of the radical fringe, but hardly in the way you suspect. Hahahahahaha! (By the way, afraid the powers that be might frown upon your freedom to gather information? Buahahahaha! they got you!) fdr: not sure. truman: not sure. jfk: bad move. lbj: bad move. clinton: oof. not sure. Yes, there are times when my anger boils to hatred. I try not to let it get the best of me. As far as my "patriotism" goes, I'd rather you question it than my intellect, although questioning either one is fine by me! (pnac: it's out to getcha!)

I think you are giving Hitler just a tad bit too much credit here. Various forces enabled a single human to act in the manner Hitler did; his actions were in no way isolated from a larger zeitgeist. And in no way does my comparison between Hitler and George Bush trivialize the attrocities of the Hitler regime; while in no way discounting these attrocities, there were many other aspects to his regime than the pograms and his militaristic expansionism. 1. George Bush is a nationalist through and through, believing in (at least with his propaganda) the god-given superiority of the United States of America. He uses this concept in much the same way that Hitler did in his oratories; 2. George Bush has unilaterally abrogated international treaties that have stood for the last 25 years, treaties that have helped to halt the proliferation of the most dangerous weaponry ever known to man. Hitler also reneged on international treaties, using similar arguments as George Bush has for justification; 3. Hitler faced international condemnation for his military incursion into a sovereign country. Enough said here, I think.... 4. Hitler abridged existing legal constraints to consolidate state power; anyone read the patriot act lately? 5. Hitler cowed his domestic political enemies by questioning their patriotism, loyalty to the motherland, etc.. We've all seen it here. 6. Hitler divided the world into good and evil, with his side of course good, and "the other" evil. Anyone noticed the "good/evil" rhetoric spewing forth from our good George Bush? 7. paralegal military tribunals for show trials. 8. Hitler spelled out his vision for world conquest before he ever took power; perhaps ye all should visit www.pnac.org for a compelling look into the minds of the architects of our current administration? When I compare George Bush to Hitler, I don't do it lightly. I don't do it simply for grandiose effect. I truly do believe George Bush to be one of the most vile and inhuman attrocities to have soiled our political landscape for quite some time. His utter disregard for human life matches that of the man he now so proudly talks of disposing (remember his diatribes bragging about how many inmates he put to death in Texas? Incredible!). Well, I doubt I'll get much agreement with these positions of mine, but truly I do believe in them. I hope our reason can help us in time.

disregard his numbers, and address the irrefutable point he makes: George Bush is not a much-liked figure internationally. I would put his popularity at something close to Hitler's during his hey-day. I would put his ACTIONS close to Hitler's, also.

for me, the above info is less indicative of "the left"'s paranoia than it is of the general paranoia that this president has sown, both domestically AND internationally. never before have we experienced such a divisive president, hated by so many around the world. This, to me, seems to be the real problem here.

i wasn't able to do a search.?.? personal ineptitude? it kept saying "invalid search" something.... but yeah with the scrolling thing, it can be annoying to have to scroll sideways to get all the info, although my 14" laptop might be to blame? but seems like a cool idea. good luck.

gotta register to use? sucky. i personally can't stand it when i gotta scroll to get all the info, especially on the home page, which was the case here. main thing was having to register to even do a search. not worth my time, when i can go to drtopo or some other site, and there's the info, ready to go.

out of all the peeps here, no one going to the happies? lots of gas money and driving skillz to boot. (my van got heisted!) i suppose i might just fly.... rumr and erik: since someone claiming to be sexual chocolate vowed to never post again, this can't really be "me", now can it? ah the world and its coordinates are always in flux, making "identity" inherently ephemeral, no? so "my" claim would be that indeed "i" have broken no vows, and neither has sexual chocolate. harrumph. (you guys not going?)

so anyone heading down to the happies around the 20th, and returning around the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th of january? or simply complying with my wishes for one leg of the journey? please now, comply with my wishes....

Tata you all. May God bless each and every one of you!

Hey jb, I fully appreciated your voice of reason. But also, no one is to blame for me leaving. Take care to ya!

Ah jeez, I couldn't do that to ya. He was super-influential in my life at one point-Jiddhu Krishnamurti.

Where ya been, honey? Did you see the good news?

So after fighting with Trask etal late into the night anoche, I realized this has got to stop. I mean, what the fuck am I doing wasting my time on the internet when I could be performing valuable services for humanity or something. Yeah yeah, I've been sick and at home, with not much else(?) to do (hah!), but this has got to end. It HAS been fun hanging with you all, trading barbs, route info, and totally factual political news; Wine tasting, Beer tasting, and the ubiquitous HC. I wish all of you the best, and I hope I didn't offend or hurt anyone with my vitriolic diatribes; I can certainly be a self-righteous bastard at times, Perhaps even a priggish Know-It-All? Take care all of you, and may love be with you always. Starting at 10:15 am this morning, I will post no more forever.

Local Seattleite, hyperactive climber extraordinaire. Can anyone really guess my avatar image?

Is that a threat you cocksucker? It is, isn't it? Only if you're threatening me, bowel movement. let's meet and settle this shit once and for all You are old and slow. A real piece of decaying meat (I can tell by the quantities of horrid foods you put into your gut). Then you get no exercise, except for your fingers. And that don't keep your belly in shape, let me tell you. Plus, I love you too much to hurt you so much. Just go sleep it off, old walrus. that's what I thought, pussy. When you look in the mirror do you see the scared little mouse shivering because the big bad wolf is coming to gut you like a fish? Are you threatening me?

Is that a threat you cocksucker? It is, isn't it? Only if you're threatening me, bowel movement. let's meet and settle this shit once and for all You are old and slow. A real piece of decaying meat (I can tell by the quantities of horrid foods you put into your gut). Then you get no exercise, except for your fingers. And that don't keep your belly in shape, let me tell you. Plus, I love you too much to hurt you so much. Just go sleep it off, old walrus.