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either mccain is pandering to the religious right (would you do that?), or he actually supports these positions. your choice.

spare me your sanctimony homey and give concise reasons as to why you disagree, like peter puget did!

With this: my gosh, you have completely dismantled any connection between mccain and parsley!

hmmm, "exactly"? first of all, obama came out and very publically denounced his pastor's rantings; where is mccain's denouncement? secondly, i think a much better argument can be made in support of wright's assertions than can be made about: "The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed". Wouldn't you agree?

more from mccain's spiritual guide: I cannot tell you how important it is that you know the true nature of Islam, that we see it for what it really is. In fact, I will tell you this: I do not believe our country can truly fulfill its divine purpose until we understand our historical conflict with Islam. I know that this statement sounds extreme, but I do not shrink from its implications. The fact is that America was founded, in part, with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed, and I believe September 11, 2001, was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore. doesn't that make you all blush with the glory of mccain's philosophical and religious associations? mccain: the insane man for the job.

man, if you thought bush was bad, wait until obama gets in there!

Too hot for climbing!

the russians had it right: despair despair and then kiss the cross before you die.

ahh but it has been shown that there is brain activity for days after "death". biology functioning as it will. oh the despair of meaninglessness! impersonal universe and biology taking a conceptualized "self" for a ride....

no more thinking, no more feeling, no more seeing.

before we know it, we will be somewhere, alone or with loved ones, perhaps falling off a mountain, at the last moment of consciousness before the end of THIS.

this is not a joke, it is real.

oh my god, we are all going to die.

does he come complete with promises of young nubiles and many goats and maybe a mercedes or two? Only then will I defend Him! Perhaps he comes with promises of love and compassion? Will I defend him then? Just who is this Leegnar you speak of?

and this is the problem: you secretly wish it WAS such a place where one could get one's butt run out of town; you just stating that in the tone above is pretty damn indicative. maybe it is you who are the mincing nebish?

ok actually understood, upon further examination.

? dechristo. because a virgin birth is impossible? there are numerous cases of asexual reproduction amongst birds and sharks, from what i've read. terribly fascinating for me. hardly understood. last one i read about was a hammerhead shark i believe at a zoo somewhere in the states.

jeez man, you crack me up! the peaceful rarely grab the headlines.... check out an enlightened christian: thomas merton. there are many, but he springs to mind.

yeah but you look back at let's say the crusades (which went on for a long time, repeatedly), and the notion of common sense perhaps SUPPORTED the crusades. i think jayb has something specific in mind, like governmental institutions informed by the enlightenment, or the advent of rational democracy, or, perhaps.... CAPITALISM!

what are the primary "forces" you speak of?

ah my little one, the knowledge imparted by the sacred texts is beyond your ken, whilst you middlingly engage in acts of ego upon the boards.

You may have heard the expression: "is nothing sacred"? The answer is, yes, some things are to many people, and very deeply so(including at least six million people who were murdered for their religious beliefs or associated ethnicity.) In a free society, you can piss all over Christianity, Judaism, or whatever, but again, don't expect that you won't be called out on it. You should be. Some of us don't believe in sitting around and watching it treated like some big joke. By responding, at least the awareness is being spread that some people really care about this stuff and maybe you'll reconsider the nature of your ugly comments next time. I doubt it, but maybe. "I believe in everything, nothing is sacred; I believe in nothing, everything is sacred." "that's words to live by, and words to die to." i can understand being offended, but i don't think it's a very enlightened condition.... as a matter of fact, the Kabalah deals with these things in a much more esoteric way than the exoterics of the layman's "religion".

man, this is turning into a serious discussion!

what do you mean "they can't"? "they" (?) are doing it all the time!

moses might have been a little confused though, if tvash took off his shirt....