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Bro-brah?

You can buy most liquor already in plastic "traveler" bottles. Don't know about 151, but you can get regular 80 proof Bacardi, and Jack/Beam/etc in 750ml size travelers. Here's your stellar recipe: 12 yr old single malt scotch, neat.

No shit there were alot of people up there with ya'll. Fern and I counted 16 people on the upper section of the Beckey from our perch on the top of NEWS. In the pic above, you can barely see us starting the last pitch in the obvious white streak on NEWS. Hey, were any of you guys (BRock maybe?) climbing on the E side of SEWS? Wearing a blue jacket. I got a couple of good pics of someone on what was maybe the Direct E. Butt or something, looked like you were right on the crest of an arete. Ran into Caveman (didn't hear ya yellin' though ) , Skykilo, rbw1966, Mtnhigh, Shred and probably saw the rest of youse in the clusterfuck of people descending Lib Bell. That was my first time at the Pass. Good stuff

I would re-visit those forgery allegations, particularly in Peter's link above (the site has been updated 4 times since PP originally posted the link). The allegations seem to be falling apart a bit.

For all you dirtbags I should add this Booty Alert: Take two extra long nut tools and you can probably score what appears to be a brand new red Metolius TCU...with those silly little dots on the lobes. It's on the 2nd pitch Roger's, about halfway up the pitch, in the crack in the right wall just below the where you climb around the little roof using the flake on the right and crack on left. Looks like someone bailed off it, there's a quicklink on the sling. It's not overcammed, and you can barely reach the trigger bar with a std nut tool. You'll need a second tool to push against the end or maybe reach the lobes. I worked on it a bit, but couldn't get a second tool on the end to push while pulling the trigger bar. If you go after it, take a 3/8 nut and fix the rap hanger eh.

Just a public service announcement: The first belay/rap station on Rogers Corner is missing a nut on one bolt. Appears to be a standard 3/8" bolt. The hanger is still there..threaded with sling and handing off the other bolt. Looks like the nut just spun off the bolt or something. This is not a big deal as far as belaying, you could link to the next belay or add gear. BUT, if you are planning to rap from the top of B.O.C. to that station, avoiding swinging around to get back into the station at the base of BOC...be aware. As a side note, a single 70m will put you on the ground if you decided to swing back in and rap from the base of BOC.

Dude, this is a great picture!

Technically, the caliber is 5.56x45. The civy equivalent is called .223 Remington although it is something of a misnomer because it is actually closer to .222. But, since there were already two existing "triple duece" calibers (i.e. .222) they called it .223. Contrary to conventional wisdom, there is a very slight difference in the rounds at the necking of the cartridge which will cause about a 10-20% higher chamber pressure than the (.223) weapon is designed for when firing a 5.65 through a .223 chambered weapon. The typical round in these calibers is a 55grain. The 54 grain tracers will trace out to 500-550m. These calibers are fast and have a relatively flat trajectory...perfect for hitting small targets at medium distances. The .223 is a fairly popular "varmint" caliber for hunting groundhogs, prarie dogs, etc because of those characteristics. For comparison, a whitetailed deer is roughly the same size range as humans. Most hunters consider .223 much too small a caliber for deer (although my next-door neighbor hunted with one for 20 years) and look for at least a 100grain bullet, preferably >140. Not many deer hunters out there carrying anything less than a .243

Nice hat 'Byrd

Don't be a wank dude, that search didn't even bring back any results for me the way you constructed it Peter222, this thread is probably the best one, take a look through it: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/347919/page/5/view/collapsed/sb/5/o/all/fpart/1 And Alpine Dave has a cool trip report here: http://www.alpinedave.com/garfield/infinite_bliss.htm

"We have a clear vision on how to win the war on terror and bring peace to the world." -- George W. Bush July 30th 2004. "I don’t think you can win [the war on terror]. But I think you can create conditions so that the — those who use terror as a tool are — less acceptable in parts of the world.” -- George W. Bush Aug. 29th 2004.

Index rocks your dome, but in the interest of traffic/beer/variety of difficulty/time to climb/etc I vote 32.

So did you bust a cap in the dude's ass as he dove out the bedroom window? Or was he hiding in the closet?

I don't need any more help bro, I gots Chuck Woolery workin' the fly honeys for me. So what's it gonna be foos? Index, 32, or 38? Cast your votes...

I don't think it's working for me, or you either for that matter. See:

If you are that concerned with the potential outcome of the election, I suggest you put your money where you mouth is and travel to Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Iowa, or New Mexico and work in the "get out the vote" effort there. Turnout is going to determine this election.

Those are $103. Campmor has the same ones for $79, and the ones with compass for $99. Just FYI

What routes do you have in mind, both for El Cap and for push?

More drama: John O'Neill -- Mr. uber-Swift, he wrote the book, etc. -- has been going on all the shows for weeks saying that John Kerry never could have been in Cambodia on a black mission. It was impossible because there were all sorts of precautions in place to prevent any border crossings and that he would have been "court-martialed" had he done so (see this column for excerpts from his book and his appearance on ABC's This Week program last Sunday.) Now CNN has come up with tapes of O'Neill telling Richard Nixon in 1971 that he himself had been on missions inside Cambodia. From last night's Aaron Brown show ... O'Neill said no one could cross the border by river and he claimed in an audio tape that his publicist played to CNN that he, himself, had never been to Cambodia either. But in 1971, O'Neill said precisely the opposite to then President Richard Nixon. O'NEILL: I was in Cambodia, sir. I worked along the border on the water. NIXON: In a swift boat? O'NEILL: Yes, sir. (END VIDEOTAPE) JOHNS: Now, O'Neill may have an explanation for this but he has not returned CNN's calls. What does seem clear is that a top member of the swift boat group is now being held to the same standard of literal accuracy they've tried to impose on John Kerry -- Aaron. It really seems like O'Neill has been going on all these shows lying right through his teeth. Not misremembering some date, not having a conflicting recollection of some battle action, but telling everyone that none of the Swift Boats crossed into Cambodia when, in fact, he himself appears to have done so routinely. Source: talkingpointsmemo.com And even more drama: The Kerry campaign is sending Max Cleland and Jim Rassman down to the president's 'ranch' to hand deliver a letter signed by seven veterans serving in the United States Senate asking Bush to "recognize this blatant attempt at character assassination, and publicly condemn it."

Read the thread doods, THIS IS FOR AUGUST 31, not today.

http://www.wildwilderness.org/docs/omnibus.htm

Double post

I wouldn't say that Left has shied away from those tactics at all. Break the current tactic down and what you have is: Casting Doubt. The allegations or insinuations don't have to be true, but if they are repeated often enough, they at the very least cast doubt. You're seeing that with the Swift Boat Vets. You also have seen that though the "Bush was AWOL" , Saudi Royals-Bush Family connections, Halliburton/oil war, and others. Moore's film was full of this sort of thing. To me, the right wing is just alot better at this sort of thing than the left. They both do it. The right is also more blatant and conniving about it IMO, but that's what makes them better at it. Pope, that next to last sentence is a masterpiece