And just for the records, all those Boeing engigeer / Mountaineer types, they don't climb because they are adrenaline junkies, they climb because they see climbing as rewarding rule-based, structured thought process. Same with the social aspect of it and having to do certain climbs so you can get your intermediate status or whatever.
That adrenaline junky car thief bullshit might apply to dirtbag rock monkey or modern alpinists, but not to your run of the mill northwest mountaineers, who are the ones who have been involved in the recent publicized accidents.