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I feel snomobilers, nude hikers, and lawn bowlers have every right to enjoy their given recreational desire just as Backcountry skiers and climbers do. However, I have also seen snomobilers ripping apart one of those big forest service information signs and feeding it to their fire along the Salmon La Sac. I personally think there is more destructive impulse in motorized sports enthusiasts A la 'let's rip it up' but can't fault them being out there. Riding them is fun. A big sport in some areas of the country is to combine bars with 'biles. drunk and zipping around, its a blast. Noise pollution is a pretty petty complaint. "I Don't like the noise." Gas and oil in the Backcountry is another matter, but a smaller issue than dogs in the backcountry. Their shit can transmit a fatal brainworm to hooved animals, and decimate an animal population. I say, ban dogs everywhere in the backcountry. Let's hunt them from 4 stroke sno-mos, the better to sneak up on em.

I haven't read all this drivel about Michael moores filmmaking. Disney choosing not to distribute a controversial film has been taken care of, the two brothers that run Miramax and put up $5 million for the film will distribute it on their own, shopping around for another film company to distribute it. It goes to the Cannes film festival to be shown. Chances are good it we will have the chance to see it before November. On a side note, another film critical of the US government, "The Panama Deception," was blocked by federal courts for a decade before winning the rights to be be shown- it won the Academy Award for Best Documentary that year.

a chicken and an egg are sitting on a bed. The chicken is smiling, smoking a cigarette with a pleased look on her face. The egg is just sitting there looking frustrated. The chicken says, "Well, I guess we anwsered THAT question."

When you need to mess with the bike chain, like if it's jumped the sprockets or chainrings, find a stick to manipulate it with. Don't use your fingers. Leave the house in clothes that leave you cold for the first ten minutes, and wear your rainjacket as little as possible, you'll be a lot more comfortable once you get to work. I see people riding in their waterproofs on days a tshirt would suffice, and think they must be sweaty. In the winter, a light softshell works great most every day except downpours. Find a good route to ride. even if its a few blocks out of your way, riding on a slow back street, or finding the road with the bike lane, is totally better than riding a madcap arterial. My 2 cents.

a bicyclist will beat an automobile thru downtown Seattle during rush hour any day of the week. Motorists hate it, but screw them, they're the ones contributing to the congestion, not the bikers. Bike times from anywhere south of Northgate Way to downtown should take under fourty minutes no matter what kind of bike you're riding. Biking from downtown Seattle to downtown Bellevue, maybe fifty minutes. Bikes and collectively, Americans should ride more.

Don't forget to get your permits- camping at Muir is considered climbing, I think. Oh, and if the weather's bad, smoke in the hut.

I like this store for gear, but found their policy of returning climbing equipment back to the shelves for resale to be pretty bogus. Their receipts should say "we take back climbing equipment" instead of 'no returns on climbing equipment' Like Gort boy stated above, feathered friends does it, maybe all stores do it. maybe the no returns on climbing equipment is just a vacous illusory promise to people that the gear hasn't been used to snatch a car out of a ditch or attempted to be modified, then returned. I saw ice axes, biners, ropes returned and hung directly back on the shelves for resale. This didn't seem kosher to me. Fuck home depot! Can't get decent snaplinks anymore.

Matt. I don't know the concerns of the special interest groups that want the road closed permanently. I speculate the NPS itself doesn't want to reopen the road. I'm with Fairweather on this one also..

i think there's interest in returning the Olympic NP into a very natural state, reducing inroads would assist in this effort... The Dose has been out for several years now, it really will suck if the park service decides to keep it closed off.

That's right Marylou, I'll make sure to take them off- they're perscription glasses to correct my vision and i specifically buy dorky ones and I'm not vain enough to wear contacts. still lamenting REI's failure to stock the yellow plastic glacier overglasses, when they stopped selling them, I knew REI had gone astray... but the REI is good for topos, metskers downtown charges an extra dollar for a 7.5 USGS. and cracked and the rest of you "pround to never pay sales tax" . You buy beer, you pay tax. When you go out to eat, you pay tax. went looking at REI for some spring skiing accessories before the ski in and could only find a large selection of coolers and folding tables....

marylou on thongs ...I think I'm going blind! Someone hand me a titanium spork to gouge my eyes out with!

remember, not all muslims are terrorists. But, many muslims resent western inroads into their societal ways. The trend in prisons for criminals to convert to the nation of islam was once looked at as a positive step, maybe not so much so any more. I have always had doubts about the sincerity of the Farrakhan-ites. Anyone bombing trains is bad. Having an dude from oregon tied to the madrid bombings show how pervasive terrorism reaches and hits close to home here in the NW. its sad, despicable really. Let's sic Gdamung on him, show him some frontier justice. To hell with due process and all that..

are you protecting the iraqis from global warming or not, G? I can't quite grasp all the thread drift....

Buck creek pass, that's it the forest service reports the suiattle river trail is messed up, wether its the pct bridge over the suiattle, or just a simple washout, i don't know. maybe try the milk creek trail if the suiattle is too messed.

i'm not bragging about a super secret route, josh k I couldn't remember the name of the pass to the east... I read suiattle river trail is messed up, probably the PCT bridge across, so both the white chuck and suiattle are out as far as i know.. go up gamma creek and have fun canyoneering in reverse....you definetly want to find the gamma way- bring a shovel. plus its too early to enjoy those anyway, less flow makes them warmer...and it's about 17 miles one way into them. You definetly have to be a wilderness hot springs afficianado.

godderdamung is getting paid to protect the Iraqis from global warming? Does he just shoot them if they don't apply sunscreen? ...those lawless bastards!

I'd recommend going via 'the Gamma Way' - try late summer. Maybe about twenty people a decade sign the register. this year access is going to be a LONG hike in. except over ________ pass.

Quilcene isn't far from shuffleboard and cheap beers n- burgers, plus a chance to win some really strange prizes playing pulltabs...

goober, I know you won't be happy until you have the last word on this, so I debated responding once again to this war thread on cc.com... but.... good luck, stay safe. Being a contract worker in Iraq implies you went for personal profit. I'm one of the liberals you so disdainfully put down because we haven't been in a war zone or whatever. Get over yourself. Opinions about the war in Iraq are not predicated on having seen combat. Sisu, the US has been violating global standards for conduct regarding POW's called the Geneva Convention. I support the troops, getting the hell out of there as soon as possible. Me making statements about war crimes commited by US troops isn't any blasphemy or unpatriotic. A year and a half ago, the UN was saying, " no, no weapons of mass destruction." the US intelligence community stretched, no, contrived a connection between Al Quaida and Saddam. Now, Halliburton and other private corporations and privateers like Gobberdamm are getting $$$$, American tax dollars, to rebuild a country that a) doesn't want to be occupied b) was attacked for the wrong reasons in the face of global opposition and c) continues to be an embroiled warzone with no clear outcome in sight. Plus, d) we are rebuilding things the US blew up during the war. the argument to not pull out now because the war would be in vain is specious, misinformed, and dim witted drumbeating patriotism. the US is not going to save face by continuing in the aggression in Iraq. Lose more lives to save face? Por Que? What's the rationale there? So, I say, as soon as the get Saddam, let's have a big photo op, tanks roll into Bagdad like the liberation of Paris, and everyone can come home. Goober, again, stay safe, but you are profiteering as a privateer in an ill conceived war fraught with conceit at the onset and perpetuated in folly. Promoting it, and dissing dissent of the iraqi war shows some lack of intelligence on your part as well. You must put me down because it makes you feel better, I guess. "Your friendly CC.com liberal firebrand who thinks you're a pompous ass" .... and they're kicking me out of the library in ten minutes, so it's off to tent city, then to my post by the freeway, panhandling in the morning....

really trying HARD to bend liberal opinion on this board, aren't you, gooberdammung? posting to resond to yourself with today's Doonesbury? Where do you get the funny pages, goober? Doonesbury is satirizing conservative opinion in that strip, not supporting bush... what are you, a republican plant spewing pro bush bullshizzle on every website you can find? What a bunch of crap. Go help the soldiers violate the geneva convention, why don't cha? It may not be clear to you, but this war was started for all the wrong reasons and continues to be an occupation of a country the citizenry doesn't appreciate, all for $$$$ to contractors intent on 'rebuilding' and running 'support' for the military. If you really are overseas in the war zone, making money as a contractor, I can understand how this may be difficult to realize. It's a privateering profiteering occupation with americans losing their lives for no good reasons. What is going to be accomplished, are we going to send over all the old fashioned polling booths so they can have elections in a month? The Iraqis have an idea on how they'd like their country, and US isn't part of it. Give it back to strongmen, it isn't any different than a multitude of countries around the world we AREN'T doing anything about... have a nice day. but pull your head out of your azz.

two good weather days, super skiing, a nonstop party, a fantastic camping spot and great folks made the ski in snow-lishous! Kudos to Dave Parker, Alpine K and Matt P for being the ringleaders for one rightous snowfest!

it's not a good example of glacier skiing but an alternative to a beginner going solo on the fryingpan i thought i'd recommend to the dude

I thought a pusher bullies kids for their milk money? not familiar with that one, rbw1966, sounds like your own personal experience, doing what?

when you guys find Saddam Hussein, and those weapons of mass destruction, maybe you'll have a , gotterwhosawhasis. Americans are dying why? again? Many Americans can't get a grasp on that. Iraqi people=terrorists responsible for 9/11? Huh? It's a profiteering war by privateers, not a war against terrorists. If we were occupied by the Finns, i bet a lot of common folk would rise up against occupation. Good luck, stay safe, and boy do you have a lot of time at the computer for a fella in a war zone. No offense. Oh, and an FBI recruiter laid out those standards for maryjane usage in the Times this last week, so, 14 times, you're okay, 15, probably not. You're right. Again ,sorry you're in a war zone, but you chose to go there, is that correct? What do you do, drive a truck, load airplanes, or serve food? also, sorry to hear you consider others opinions dog pile against your own, sounds like misinformed patriotic elitism to me. have a nice day. when i need that job reference, i'll have them give you a call.

The bill creating the secret service was signed by Abraham Lincoln the day of or the day before he was shot, to combat counterfiters. Later given the task of protecting the president.