Bronco

Apes and Ballerinas - 5.10 b crack at "the Beach" area on the Upper Town Wall The Ape is p1, the Ballerina is p2 no mention of Ape Index in Cramer's Book

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: And crater you might. I got just the 5.8 for you first pitch of the Lizard?

quote: Originally posted by chucK: Bronco, Aren't you supposed to be at Index today.... No belay. but thanks for rubbing salt in the wounds It sure looks sunny over there.

I am willing to give you $15.00 send me an e-mail with your location and how to get ahold of you

A friend of mine went climbing with Crack last saturday. I saw him a few days later and he has this big bruise on his forehead over his right eye. So I ask and he tells me that coming out of the little roof on the lizzard route, he's feeling a little gripped and in order to reach the crack on the face he plants his forehead on the edge of the roof so he can keep 4 points of contact with the rock or he is going to whip off into space. He made the move but was left with a reminder of course I had to tell him its not ethical to use your forehead while flailing. Sounded funnier the first time. Oh well.

You never know, from the looks of your "Logging Road" ski trip I'd suggest you hold on to your shoes, they climb trees better than rando. Just kidding, let me know what size tail you have.

chossorama scketchy duuuuude

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Has been great. Hopped on many new routes and flailed madly in the last few days... There is no other kind of flailing I've seen. Acually, that's not true, if you've seen me try a 5.12 move (I'm not even close) then it can look pretty meager.

sure phil, it aint doing me any good only having one. Hows $10 sound?

Howdy I need ONE snowshoe tail for my MSR shoes. 4" preferred but I'll take what I can get. Let me know how much $ you want for it. I found one last spring durring the thaw (BOOTY!) and wondered if anyone else had an extra. email: rpmcousa@aol.com

If you think about the typical Mountaineer, it seems that the majority of them are city folk who want to get into Mountaineering while playing it safe. So they have no alternative but to look like silly savages on the first outings of thier lives all roped together with their names on thier helmets roped together wearing the newest plastic boots. This is a good way for them to get into the sport and do it with out really endangering themselves like they would if they did the standard clothes line and tennis shoes intro to climbing (not that there's anything wrong with that). I did look closley at joining a few years ago and decided I didn't care for all the regulation, extra expense and prerequisite stuff. After having climbed Rainier with RMI I also didn't like the idea of being stuck with a large group of wimpy whiny (whaaa my feet are cold) yuppies who don't like me cause I am in my Danners and camo gaiters whooping it up. I also understand not everybody has had the luxery of growing up in a rural area with nothing to offer but climbin on stuff and camping out in garbage bag/duct tape tents with your "converse mountaineering boots" which rock of course And I am being sincere when I say mountaineers are just an easy target for those of us who are still insecure about our own climbing abilities and I am sure there are plenty of mountaineer members who could out climb me, kick my ass and would be glad to do it. Bring it on you wieners!!

I am only basing my opinion on heresay, news paper articles, dreams after eating mexican food and personal experience. All Mountaineers are bad mojo. Until I need them to rescue me, then they are my best buddies. We are just spraying here guys, swaping stories and whatnot. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I'll buy you a soda if it makes you feel better. Sincerely, Broncocurrent owner of several cascade mountains

payaso - nevermind Last March me and a buddy were doing some snowshoeing above Paradise and were the first hikers out of the parking lot that morining. We headed toward Muir in thickening clouds, breaking trail in about 16" of new really soft snow. I could see a large group coming up behind us I figured to be an RMI group except they kept stopping. We kept stopping as we were in a nice whiteout and couldent tell up from down. We reached the approximate elevation of the base of Panorama Point and turned around to go down and do somthing more exiting. Of course having a trail to follow the Big group came racing up. I commented on the lack of visibility, asked the leader if they were going to keep going and he condecendingly said, "Of course, we know this mountain like the back of our hand, it's not a problem for us" and asked if I would mind if he had one of his party follow us down as he was without snowshoes and really slowing them down. I, of course, said I would and headed down twoard the parking lot with a mountie flailing about up to his crotch in the snow. We descended almost to Paradise and found approximatly 50 new mountaineers practicing self arrest directly across the trail. This meant everybody else on that hike had to either climb 100' up the hill, 50' down the hill or wait for them to pause so we could sprint through. I asked the leader if there wasen't a better place to perform the drill with a response of "I am not having all of these mountaineers pick up and move just because you have to go around" In that time, the group we left at Pan Point had walked up behind us and acted like I was some manaiac for having hiked to Pan Point in such bad conditions. What a bunch of HOSERS! Rather than waste anymore time than we had we just walked away while being berated for not having nearly enough stuff hanging off of our packs, no helmets..... All I have to say is thank God I didn't get involved in that group when I started climbing. I would need therapy by now.

If Cascade Climbers accuratly represents the climbing community, I'd say we are in pretty good hands. Except for Wallstien. He climbs too much

I said it before, I'll probably say it again: More climbing Less spraying Anybody wanna go to Index tomorow?

it was still there monday morning come to think of it, the saturday someone tried to break into my truck (12/22) I was setting up to climb the first pitch of the lizard when this wanker sprints up to that pin and starts hammering away like a mad man. I said "nice morning eh" and he just muttered something. nice guy. Maybe he was pissed off at not being able to get that pin out (he tried for 1/2 an hour)so he vandalized my truck. BASTARD! [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Bronco ]

The fact still remains that if YOU mr car thief are smart enough operate a computer and somehow read this, (which I doubt) the next time you are in my 'hood breaking into cars and you hear the distinct sound of a Stihl 044 chainsaw start, you better pray you can outrun a short angry man carrying that chainsaw!! What kind of fool are you anyway to break into cars in a climbers parking lot? Most climbers I know are tough as the rock we climb on and could pop your head like a pimple without even thinking about it. We are so mean I think Robert Dinero was a climber (are you talkin' to me?) I'll be waiting for you -

he looks taller in that photo

eh, yeah, the screaming was my buddy trying on my climbing shoes or it might have been me discovering a nice new blue HB quadcam (BOOTY!)that ended up staying there.

The Worst: An old guy I ran into named Judd The Best: Learning to lead on Index Granite (as opposed to other less hardy rock)

two resolutions more climbing and less spraying

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Beta for Libra:Get feet high and go for it on those thin hand jams. Flail Crack shame on you for flailing on that! In Crack's defense, someone ripped a knuckle and greased the crack with blood pretty well.

I thought of that but, you know, there was these 4 dudes (suspects) still sleeping when I drove into the parking lot that seemed pretty upset I would wake them up at an ungodly 7:00 am. One of them even made fun of my hat! As it turned out, they were so wimpy , they coulden't even go climbing until they had fluffy french toast at the Index Cafe. I decided they were fairly suspicious, but too girly to be criminals, (other than possesion of drug parafanalia).

quote: Originally posted by Pro_popper: Any goode beta on snov & ice conditionz?Ezpecially EDM route? What route are you talking about?

quote: Originally posted by philfort: Are crampons necessary? "Pitons for safty"