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In some peoples minds blonde and skinny is equal to babehood no matter what the face or body look like.

I think most ppl that posted to this thread were supportive of newies getting out and climbing stuff and less supportive of crag police catbirdseat (himself freshly out of newbiehood) for suggesting newbies be quarantined at certain bumbly crags.

I should point out for those unfamiliar with SWBC climbing history that my quip above reflects on the fact that at the time in the early 90's when Don wrote the list for Coast mag he was probably resposible for 50% of the technical rock routes in the alpine of SW BC so choosing 5 of 9 for a list is no big deal. On the other subjects it is good to see the Old Settler made it on there. Hey I've done some of those lines now! I dunno about the SW ridge on Hozomeen - Don mcPherson's report in the BC Mountaineer spoke of gravel, belays with no gear just stances, and some rotten rock.... but it's such a cool looking line... maybe I can report in person on its quality in the near future.

Fingerboards are so 1980s. The serious use of fingerboards died out about the time gyms and home walls grew in popularity. But theres still no better medium for showing off a one-finger pullup on in your rock climbing video

if yaya shows up there will be enough muffys for a tag team

framesheet is also good for preventing the #4 camalot from gooning your kidneys from behind the less back padding your pack has the more a framesheet will help. also helps to transfer load from the shoulders to the hipbelt. if you take a framesheet out of a 38L pack it wont make much diff but if you take it out of a fully loaded 90L pack you will notice, the pack will tend to banana bend as you tighten the shoulder straps up and want to take your back with it

no you do need two images but they alternate full screen and the shutters flicker open and closed. its sort of like 3d glasses but without the red and blue lenses. the flickering of the images and the shutters are synchronized so each eye only sees one full screen image

it depends if its raining or not.

your loss now i'm wondering why you need to register a new user name for every post? you'll never hit 20,000 that way.

but layton already has the bitter and desperate act under lockdown! and if it doesnt work for him do bug and greg really think it will work for them?

i just put my work stereoscope up against the screen in our other office they have these funky shutter glasses that let you look at digital sat photos in 3d. its really cool for scoping secret valleys full of unknown big walls

and even though you don't have a Shocker next to your name you still get to be a "gaper on board" where is imorris?

real honest grade VI's would also include the east face of slesse. i would have to call the NE butt of slesse a V but right at the bottom end of the scale. the east butt direct, nav wall and real mckim would also be V's, all are harder and more sustained tho than the ne butt. otoh routes like the SE butt or flight 810 would be IV's

lambone vs pass the s please

thats the cheam range - pp. 144 -150 red beckey

As closely as I can remember it Don's list from Coast Mag was Ashlu S face Yak Check Solar System on Habrich Rexford East ridge Slesse NE butt Opus on Viennese Tuning Fork on Bardean Springboks North Ridge on Clarke only 5 of which were his first ascents...such understated modesty

Wayne - there are several Grade VII's in North America - all are big wall climbs on Baffin Island. "THE" traverse of the Waddington summits plus Combatant, Tiedemann, Asperity, Serra V, Serra IV, Serra III, Serra II and Serra I, is only given a Grade VI. are you saying the pickets traverse is significantly more serious than that? I am not starting an argument. I am merely pointing out hyperbole. I would do the same if someone said that freeing Liberty Crack was 5.14, even though I haven't freed Lib crack.

i think you should climb wherever catbirdseat is going but get there 5 minutes before him

I saw grizzly tracks right at the point where the upper red x is

Im pretty sure lurker Andy Cairns had or has some set up for taking stereo pics with two point and shoots taped together.

the definition of Grade VII is "a remote (usually big wall) climb requiring at least SEVERAL WEEKS." if you could get as far as you did in several days I don't think the whole traverse could be called Grade VII except in hyperbole....

I remember what Don's classics from Coast magazine were. I might even have the article filed away. Fortunately or not new climbs and new opinions since then have perhaps altered the list somewhat. One of the climbs on Don's list was deliberately rejected by the author of Alpine Select for instance. I still don't know why

dude if i go to a new area i research it first... then i ask questions after i have some clue.

how about Black Peak NE ridge Shuksan Fisher Chimneys Johannesburg N face I mean really though. If someone is asking the question then they probably dont even have the selected guide but they won't understand any of our answers so they will have to buy the guidebook anyways. With that in mind I would say to hell with the Cascades, come to Vancouver, fly in to Red Tit Hut and spend all 5 days bagging peaks in the Tantalus Range.

did someone say an otter at the wheel?