Retrosaurus

quote: Originally posted by Crackbolter: I think Mitch has offended just about every climber that I admire. The obvious solution is to choose your role models more carefully. Of course, I know better that to expect that from someone that would choose Crackbolter as an avatar.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Funny Mitch you always seem less than average to me. Gee Matt, with an ego the size of yours, that does not suprise me a bit. Do you have to leave it at the base of a route when you go for the redpoint or can you you really climb with something that large. I bet it creates enough shade that you never have to use sun screen. BTW, average or less than, I am OK with me.

quote: Originally posted by mattp: Retro: But when you decide to take the law into your own hands, when you state that you don't care what anybody else thinks, and when you say you are going to keep going back and removing the offending bolts if they reappear... Did I really say that? Of course if you don't remove them again if they reappear, then what's the point.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: ...just how tall are you guys? My pop sensibility says smaller than average. So come on fess up how tall are you? If I had met you I wouldn't be asking. Average US male 5' 10" I bet your shorter! Well, Kerns, I am 5'10".

Mattp, Thanks for clearly seeing and stating the issue. Please don't refer to bolt removal as vigilanteism or a heroic crusade . Like you said, almost everyone agrees that bolts near natural protection is unacceptable. It is just that I am willing to take some initiative and do something about it. If I had your gift for communication, the issue would be more palletable. But the truth is this shit just pisses me off a bit much and I am not mature enough to resist taking a few shots. BTW: Just how tall is Matt Kerns anyway?

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Retro - make him admit to what he's in prison for before you agree to marry him He would have to give me access to substantial assets in foreign banks also . And I don't mean Lycra-wrapped horsecock.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: ...just how tall are you guys? My pop sensibility says smaller than average. So come on fess up how tall are you? If I had met you I wouldn't be asking. Average US male 5' 10" I bet your shorter! Just post your real name and I'll post my height. Oh Gawd, this is sounding like a personal ad. You aren't going to try to hug me are you?

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: Off, what your missing is that these guys are not the valiant noble guard protecting our resources but a collection of jerks. Have we met? It must have been more memorable for you than for me. quote: ...just how tall are you guys? My pop sensibility says smaller than average. My pop sensibility tells me you are wearin' danskins and sportin' a woody (at least when Dwayner's around.) Go hug yourself. quote: These guys believe that by creating controversy they can have their moment in the sun. Assuming that is the case, it seems you have a problem with that. What does your pop sensibility say about that? This guy believes that a little uproar gets noticed by more climbers and the message is spread more effectively to more people. Honestly the is entertaining and I enjoy a good arguement. It is easy when I am right. But you are laboriously long winded and wordy and I really don't understand any of your issues except: quote: Off, what your missing is that these guys are not the valiant noble guard protecting our resources but a collection of jerks... ...These guys believe that by creating controversy they can have their moment in the sun. Regards, PP [hugging himself because no one else cares]

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: ...he ain't my type. He thinks he's your type. If he didn't, you wouldn't have to worry about that boner.

Lush Rimjob would be a sport climber. Foremost he is a capitalist. Sport climbing is good for the economy. You can sell soo much more crap to soo many more lemmings. He is pro-development. Fuck the environment. What we really need is economic growth.

quote: Originally posted by Off White: Typically, in a bolt war, the real loser is the rock you purport to revere. Just which typical bolt war are you referring to? quote: Are you just going after egregiously placed bolts adjacent to natural pro, or are you out to remove bolt protected face climbs? Bolts where natural protection is adequate. quote: Do what you want, but post a TR after the fact.Today I removed 3/4 of the bolts on a naturally protectable face climb. My 5-year old son got tired before we could finish. I will post the particulars after it is done. quote: If you want to be bold visionaries, don't sneak around like a terrorist, take responsibility for your actions, and real names too if you please... I have no interest in being a bold visionary. The vision is not mine, it has been spelled out a long time ago by much greater and more eloquent climbers than me. Read: Robinson, Chouinard, Messner. I, like many others, just happen to know right from wrong; and like few others don't have a problem doing something about it. I have no problem taking responsibility for my actions. You want my real name? You can have it and my address too for posting the name of the DDD retro-bolter and the name of the person that put the bolt on the route named Pearly Gates and the name of the person that put two bolts on the route to the right of it after I had already done the first ascent. I want their names so that they can receive the public mud-slinging that they deserve. Or you can just ask around, people know who I am.

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Somebody take a digital camera along and shoot video of Dwayner and pope getting hugged by Peter Puget "HELP!! HE'S GOT A BONER!!!

I chopped bolts today. I think I'll chop bolts tomorrow. Can you say: "Warm and fuzzy?"

quote: Originally posted by anthonysmarocks: Hey Butt Buddies, a womans point of view is this: My man packs a gun that drills deep. I love my bolts. Sport Climbing is like Sport Sex, it is harder, faster, deeper, and I don't have to pack a shitload of unused gear to be hard. Pack your crow bar, 'cuz you are shooting blanks. You need to get tested for AIDS.

quote: Originally posted by glen: So far, the best tool I've come across for pulling bolts is a ball joint adjuster and a hammer. Looks like a tuning fork, but wedged at the end of the tongs. Waaaay better than a crowbar. No bolt can resist. I did a little google searching and came up with a tie rod separator. It looks the same, but the space between the forks is closer to 3/4" as opposed to 1" for a ball joint separator. At roughly the price of a nut tool, every climber should have one (,especially those that are bolting "faster than their neurons can fire.") Now I'm going shopping and then I have a little work to do. I'll let y'all know how things work. Talk is great. But talk is just talk. If nothing changes, then nothing changes. The great majority of climbers know that bolts do not belong where natural protection will protect the climber.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Yeah, but my horsecock and cheese were untouched!! Not even the lowest snaffle hound would get anywhere near that fumunda cheese.

Puget, Do you stand for anything? You produce a lot of words, but as far as I can tell you have not taken a solid position on any issue other than you want a hug from Dwayner. No. I do not want a hug either.

quote: Originally posted by RayBonbon: I agree that rampant bolting is the shits, but that problem's been around a long time. A long time if, ...you're younger than my car; or ...if your girlfriend isn't older than Britney Spears. BTW, my apologies to allison.

No shit! Der Bavarian village has added a "Sausage Fest" and the whole town will be hanging their weiners out. Does this have CCs written all over it or what?

quote: Originally posted by Dennis Harmon: We can get them back though. Every time you're in the vacinity of a ranger station, stop in and ask them some really, really stupid questions like, "Do I need to bring a gun on this hike?" or something like, "What's the best way to go number 2 up in the mountains?" It makes them have to do some actual work. They hate that. Dennis Or what to do about nosebleeds while climbing. The really dense ones don't even know when they've been trolled.

Trask, you are a self-proclaimed poseur. quote: Originally posted by sk: here are many gen, x ers who have also atained a degree of enlightenment that you will not find in your life. Enlightenment found at Vantage with a grigri in one hand and a cell phone in the other. [ 06-17-2002, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Retrosaurus ]

I think that public humiliation may be the solution. If anyone claims these prizes they can be blacklisted and have feces flung at them when they are sighted at the crags. If I find out who they are I will gladly throw the first turd.

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quote: Originally posted by mtngrrrl: At least get the grammar correct. I'll bet that 9 out of 10 people do not know the difference between "your" and "you're".

quote: Originally posted by Retrosaurus: ...the route that I lead the last time I was there had sprouted a bolt at the bottom and a bolt near the top ... Does anyone know about these bolts? Or do they just pop up like mushrooms after a good rain. quote: ...the route with the bolt in the overhang between the double cracks. Does anyone else wonder what that bolt is for? Has anyone else even climbed this route? Am I missing some thing or is this a stupid bolt?