KaskadskyjKozak Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 Total bullshit. I had it out with one of them at the gate after we summited last February. We were 10 minutes late and she fucking read me the riot act and played the intimidation game- making a big show of writing down my license plate. I suggest that you call down there and tell Tracy Swartout that you object, as a park GUEST, to being treated like this. I also encourage you to dispute the ticket: Make them go to court. 360-569-2211 The management down there seems to have entirely forgotten why they are employed. Their (often arbitrary) rules are not the freaking customers, we are. So, so completely disgusted with most of the NPS right now. Quote
Buckaroo Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 From freedom to fascism We went up and climbed in the Tatoosh range a couple of years ago and were about an hour late back to the gate. There was no ranger, I think we went to the Hotel and got a key, or they came out and unlocked it with no drama. Winter conditions aren't always that predictable and trying to estimate your return time exactly to the minute is bogus. Just leave the out gate open what's the big deal? If you are competent enough to hike and climb in the winter you should be able to get down the road after dark. Quote
astrov Posted March 11, 2016 Posted March 11, 2016 Install one of these puppies so folks can get out after hours. Problem solved. [video:youtube]6Qnnxx-uHG4 That was pretty funny. We're petitioning the government for change, though, so indeed we have to appeal its punitive nature. A one-way gate won't cut it. It's gotta be spike strips or else something worse, like Predator drones silently patrolling Paradise Access road, Hellfire bombs armed and ready to customize the bodywork on your stoner Subaru. Quote
Alex789 Posted March 16, 2016 Posted March 16, 2016 Wow, too bad for getting a ticket. Last year we were also late, but the lady in the hotel just opened the gate. It seems it's up to individual officers on what to do in such situations. Too bad for NPS. Quote
lukeh Posted March 30, 2016 Author Posted March 30, 2016 Article about this issue in Backcountry magazine: http://backcountrymagazine.com/stories/the-price-ofparadise/ Quote
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