Why does FS build shitty roads, not for us?

[cakeo48]

The FS spends millions of dollars a year building pointless, stupidly designed crappy roads, for loggers each year. Overall the FS isn't really benefiting from this, facilitating loggers in many cases cost more or the same as the tax dollars from that logging. So why can't they stop it, let the loggers build their own roads, if they feel like logging that land. Then the FS can use these dollars to improve important roads, and support other industries in public land, like the small non-profit ski hill, or small hotel cabins. Help more people enjoy the forest, instead of supporting it's degradation.

[ivan]

tradition?

[Pete_H]

Wouldn't it be great if we had a FS that actually supported the use of its land?

[genepires]

I think it is in their mission statement or something like. Their mission is public good which includes access for loggers and mining and grazers. I think you are confusing FS with national parks.

 

[genepires]

from their site:

"National Forest System lands are managed using a multiple-use approach that sustains healthy terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems and addresses the need for resources, commodities, and services."

 

and their mission statement

"Mission Statement

The mission of the Forest Service is to sustain the health, diversity, and productivity of the Nation’s forests and grasslands to meet the needs of present and future generations. The mission of the Forest Service is guided by the fundamental principle of providing the greatest amount of good for the greatest amount of people in the long run and is characterized by the slogan: Caring for the Land and Serving People."

 

somewhere in there is the need to let cattle graze for big macs and log for toilet paper.

 

[cakeo48]

The cows can enjoy their grass, but I think we have enough Subsidized Toilet paper plantations, overall it's probably taking more good from the people then it's really helping them. Makes you wish that Secretary of the Interior actually created the Conservation agency, which would control all public lands, and protect them from destruction.

[sportnoob]

The cows can enjoy their grass, but I think we have enough Subsidized Toilet paper plantations, overall it's probably taking more good from the people then it's really helping them. Makes you wish that Secretary of the Interior actually created the Conservation agency, which would control all public lands, and protect them from destruction.

 

Sounds like a great way for keeping climbers from putting bolts, fixed anchors, or the like on all public lands.

[pcg]

The FS spends millions of dollars a year building pointless, stupidly designed crappy roads, for loggers each year... So why can't they stop it, let the loggers build their own roads, if they feel like logging that land.

Probably because if they let the loggers build their own roads, we would end up with bulldozer tracks filled with rock that would wash out and create far worse problems as soon as the loggers had vanished.

[cakeo48]

Probably because if they let the loggers build their own roads, we would end up with bulldozer tracks filled with rock that would wash out and create far worse problems as soon as the loggers had vanished.

How do washed out Bulldozer tracks create problems, they just become the hillside again. As roads the bulk of them are useless lead nowhere, car destroying, gated roads. I not suggesting the Forest service should not mantain and build useful roads that actually go places.