TR'able ice fall conditions

[sayjay]

I'm new to icefall climbing though I'm experienced in alpine ice and rockclimbing. Have hit vertical ice a few times and LOVED IT AND WANT MORE.For lack of a partner who can lead ice I'm looking to get out and TR this weekend to try and get my feet under me before taking on leading. WI3-4 would be ideal. Looked over Jason Martin's guide-in-the-making and was wondering if anyone knows what kinda shape any of the following are in:Pan Dome FallsStevens Pass/Nordic WallIcicle Creek/Blast Rock WallSnow Creek Valley/Millenium Wall

[ 02-01-2002: Message edited by: sayjay ]

[sayjay]

Jason, thanks for the info. Well worth knowing. I'll shred that page of the book... which is, by the way, great to have. I appreciate your putting it out there.

As for the rest of you, is there really no one out there that's seen these climbs recently or are you all just too reticent to give up info? C'mon, share the wealth, guys...

[Jarred_Jackman]

What are you talking about when you mentioned Pan Dome Falls? Are you talking about the the Shuksan area, I was at the Baker Ski area and saw ice that looked "in", short though, I'm not sure if this is what you're thinking of.

later

[Jason_Martin]

I've taken the Nordic Wall out of the guide as access to this area is very difficult. Not only that, I've found out that one may be ticketed in Washington State for climbing on the road cuts on the highway. In other words... Don't climb there.

Jason

[genepires]

To figure out if the icicle is ok, unless someone has been there, is go find soome telemetry weather history for leavenworth and see if it has been cold for long enough. 9 days ago it was raining in leavenworth so the question is has it been cold enough to reform everything.

I can help you with snoq. though. I made a report earlier about ice there in this site. Many of the ice there is short and tr-able.