KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Archenemy, you really should be living in 600 sq ft dungeon. She needs more space for her S&M toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Back in what day? My house is right around 3400 sq ft and it is a hundred years old. Why is it suddenly a "mansion". If it was definitely a mansion in its day! The average sq ft of the American house has doubled compared to 1950. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 What about older houses that are poorly insulated and equipped with extremely inefficient appliances? Seems like total consumption would determine who has the highest eco-virtue, not necessarily the size of the home. Yes, this is far more logical. Although I am not that big of an eco-anything, I have, over the years, replaced all of my old appliances with energy star stuff (and enjoyed the tax credit by the way!). I just happen to not bother with things I don't use--I don't have a microwave, toaster, or any of that useless shite. I am having the last set of windows replaced this year (that is some expensive shit to do!). And, I keep my gas heat at 58 during the winter. None of this is for the eco-halo, but it is just another way to save money so I can buy other CRAP that I do like having. I would like to get a boat. Wouldn't that be fun? Especially on a day like today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Oh, and a Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Back in what day? My house is right around 3400 sq ft and it is a hundred years old. Why is it suddenly a "mansion". If it was definitely a mansion in its day! The average sq ft of the American house has doubled compared to 1950. Wow, I'd be mistress of the mansion back in the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 hott. so does your house have a dungeon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 or at least a 20 foot pit in the basement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Back in what day? My house is right around 3400 sq ft and it is a hundred years old. Why is it suddenly a "mansion". If it was definitely a mansion in its day! The average sq ft of the American house has doubled compared to 1950. YES BUT BILL CLINTON WANTED TO HELP US CROSS THAT BRIDGE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY! ARE YOU SAYING YOU NOW FAVOR BOB DOLE'S APPROACH OF BACK TO THE FUTURE??!! WTF, OLYCLIMBER!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 And for everyone else out there ready to tell me I should live in a 600 sq ft studio--fuck you. One of the many things I like about living in America is I can live wherever the fuck I want. Just so happens, I chose to live in the best thing in the best place I can afford (all subject to my own opinions and tastes obviously). Nobody ever said you couldn't do whatever you wanted with your money, so fuck you for expecting everyone to pay for your luxury. Pay for my luxury? I pay my fair share of taxes as well as donate 10% of my income every year. And I put away the max amount for my retirement, so fuck all that Social Security bullshit. I am one of those people who doesn't believe your little snotly and bratly are ever going to be capable of supporting me no matter what lifestyle I live. So if you think you are supporting me, you better make a lot of fucking money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 YES BUT BILL CLINTON WANTED TO HELP US CROSS THAT BRIDGE INTO THE 21ST CENTURY! ARE YOU SAYING YOU NOW FAVOR BOB DOLE'S APPROACH OF BACK TO THE FUTURE??!! WTF, OLYCLIMBER!!! You are still pissed he lied about Tobacco not causing cancer, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I'm just saying, the only way for for america is sustain is for us all to move back in with our parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Pay for my luxury? I pay my fair share of taxes as well as donate 10% of my income every year. And I put away the max amount for my retirement, so fuck all that Social Security bullshit. I am one of those people who doesn't believe your little snotly and bratly are ever going to be capable of supporting me no matter what lifestyle I live. So if you think you are supporting me, you better make a lot of fucking money. reading comprehension darling, reading comprehension. We were discussing the tax breaks for home ownership and whether that should be encouraged in America. I, I, am a carbuncle on the buttocks of society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Pay for my luxury? I pay my fair share of taxes as well as donate 10% of my income every year. And I put away the max amount for my retirement, so fuck all that Social Security bullshit. I am one of those people who doesn't believe your little snotly and bratly are ever going to be capable of supporting me no matter what lifestyle I live. So if you think you are supporting me, you better make a lot of fucking money. I think he means "pay for it" as per damage to the environment/carbon foot print, etc. I don't think hot carl has any bratly or snotly's (that he knows of). :-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 I'm just saying, the only way for for america is sustain is for us all to move back in with our parents. I actually plan to have my parents/inlaws move in to our crap-filled mansion as soon as one of them can't live independently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Thank god for small favors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olyclimber Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 My parents will not fit into my poorly planned 1940s tenement house. Unfortunately the moment they cannot produce labor for the collective they will be ground up and eaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Pay for my luxury? I pay my fair share of taxes as well as donate 10% of my income every year. And I put away the max amount for my retirement, so fuck all that Social Security bullshit. I am one of those people who doesn't believe your little snotly and bratly are ever going to be capable of supporting me no matter what lifestyle I live. So if you think you are supporting me, you better make a lot of fucking money. reading comprehension darling, reading comprehension. We were discussing the tax breaks for home ownership and whether that should be encouraged in America. I, I, am a carbuncle on the buttocks of society. Go back and read your own quote. You said to stop expecting others to pay for my luxury. No big words there. Easy to understand. The implication is that my ability to live in my home is due to other taxpayers graciously paying my way and "subsidizing" my lifestyle through my mortgage interest write-offs. Don't back up from what you've written. It makes you look like a pussy (even your weak attempt at condescension doesn't cover that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 My parents will not fit into my poorly planned 1940s tenement house. Unfortunately the moment they cannot produce labor for the collective they will be ground up and eaten. SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Go back and read your own quote. You said to stop expecting others to pay for my luxury. No big words there. Easy to understand. The implication is that my ability to live in my home is due to other taxpayers graciously paying my way. Don't back up from what you've written. It makes you look like a pussy (even your weak attempt at condescension doesn't cover that) Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more. I'm not sure how that makes me look like a "pussy" - am I emitting some discharge now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more. I stand corrected. He did mean $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cj001f Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more. I stand corrected. He did mean $$ carbon footprint and energy use are heavily subsized in the US so they are all connected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Absurd. First of all, my loan for my home is pretty small--and that is what the tax break is based on NOT THE SIZE OF MY HOME. This can't possibly be that hard to understand, is it? But no matter, the amount written off the interest of the loan (remember that is all that is written off, not the amount of the loan) is small enough not to have much impact compared to many, many other tax "loops" and unfair taxation (as listed above). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLC Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more That would only be true if the government were providing some sort of collective service in return for taxes paid. Fortunately, 90% of our taxes are tossed into a shithole and set afire. Here's a sad little lesson for you - if they raise my taxes, they ain't gonna lower yours. So, the mortgage deduction ain't costing you shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more. I stand corrected. He did mean $$ carbon footprint and energy use are heavily subsized in the US so they are all connected Agreed. And I certainly pay my taxes. But my taxes are not based on my consumption; they are based on my income. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't to me. Why should I be penalized for what I make? Wouldn't it be smarter to encourage people to make more money? And then only tax them on their consumption? Especially on the consumption of things that you wish to discourage (like ciggies and twinkies)? Why is the size of a home becoming a valid focal point for tax reform? It seems strange to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yes, you receiving tax breaks to live in your mansion requires others who do not live in mansions and receive said tax breaks to pay more That would only be true if the government were providing some sort of collective service in return for taxes paid. Fortunately, 90% of our taxes are tossed into a shithole and set afire. Here's a sad little lesson for you - if they raise my taxes, they ain't gonna lower yours. So, the mortgage deduction ain't costing you shit. Fuck! I wish I'd said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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