carolyn Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Anyone ever heard of or used Kayland Revolution boots? I havent actually had a chance to try them on yet...they dont have them in my size right now. The store Im doing some work for is getting a womens version (which is supposably much lighter) in a week or two. Never heard of the company, but the boots have been highly reccomended (if they fit properly) by a few people in the store. Killer deal on the inverno's tho...One size left...my size! closeout sale...$229- discount for working the weekend AND the paycheck I make.I would definately come out ahead with money to spare. I wore them around the store for a while tonight and I liked them a lot more than Koflachs! I will be trying out all my top selections on their ice tower before making a final decision in the next few weeks. Info on Kayland would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! [ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: carolyn ] Quote
Lambone Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 I got a better idea... Instead of spending $229 on Infernos: -take twenty bucks-go down to the local hardware store-buy two large buckets-buy one bag of concrete mix-add water and mix The cement boots will work just as well... Koflachs:- buy two jumbo sized sponges -carve a slot out of the middle for your foot-now you've got homemade Koflachs No realy, when black diamond quites making something it's usually for a good reason. Those waffle stompers are so stiff that they will give you bruises. And hell if you could even stem in them let alone high step... If you have your heart set on plastic boots (and have mid-narrow feet)- save for Lowa Civettas. Or look for an cheap old pair of the green ones. I hear Kayland makes good boots as well. [ 11-08-2001: Message edited by: lambone ] Quote
carolyn Posted November 9, 2001 Author Posted November 9, 2001 very funny lambone just have my heart set on boots that I like (not particularly plastic even)... would be nice if they happened to be on sale like the inverno's,tho. Quote
DPS Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Black Diamond does not make Scarpas, just distributes them. Black Diamond has a track record of making innovative products that are popular with many climbers, then discontinuing them for no apparent reason. (fin gate 'biners, carbon fiber Black Prophets, etc). Oh yeah, and my Pulsars were WAY better than my Shrikes. Those tools bite. [ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: danielpatricksmith ] [ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: danielpatricksmith ] Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Man those fin gates were the shit. I still have 2 or 3 left for ice season. Quote
fishstick Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Unsure what exactly the revolution is. I have climbed quite a bit in Kayland Giove Kevlars. They're an insulated single boot with an outer fabric not entirely dissimilar to that used on some Technica models. They fit me very well out of the box. Very light weight. Medium warmth, which means I get cold toes on longer belays at -10C or lower. Enough flex to make them quite good on rock. Low toe profile. Medium heel width. Initially I doubted that they'd be stiff enough for hard ice but they're OK. Primary negative points: I'd like to see more cushioning foam used under the forefoot for long approaches and find the boots a bit sweaty. I'd also prefer more ankle support at times, for example when descending very steep frozen snow facing outwards. Primary strong points: Very light weight. Material doesn't stretch when it gets wet. Small profile. In a sense they feel like K3's with a softer upper. GB Quote
chelle Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Lowa Civettas are great boots, and the women's model is good for mid-wide feet. I love to hike in mine, except when I am descending on steep slab but then plastics generally suck for this situation... Quote
Lambone Posted November 9, 2001 Posted November 9, 2001 Dan, You right... Scarpa and BD are not the same thing, my bad. Pulsars and Shreiks - WHY? Quote
carolyn Posted November 10, 2001 Author Posted November 10, 2001 ya, those shoes look pretty sweet beck. We are raffeling off a pair to those who demo the boots on the ice wall. (lucky dawgs!) And I did check backpacker last night while doing a search...only thing I found were some hiking boots...and then checked out Kayland I wore an older version of the boots tonight (I think they were the kevlars, fishstick) outside for about 7 hrs...roughly 40 degrees. My toes started getting chilled the last hour or so (and yes they were the right size - the fit was GREAT). Concerns me a bit since right now Im in MN and I will be spending a lot of time outside in zero or below temps. They worked wonderfully on the vertical ice wall. Stiff, yet when walking around in them, they didnt feel much different then a good pair of hiking boots-lots of support, yet flexible. I would highly reccomend checking them out if you are looking into boots. price for the revolutions are about $350. [ 11-09-2001: Message edited by: carolyn ] Quote
Beck Posted November 10, 2001 Posted November 10, 2001 Chiming in on Kayland, I've got some of their scramble shoes and think they are the best set of approach shoes I've ever laid eyes on- The quality is top notch as well, I'd give Kayland products a big thumbs up! Backpacker had a short review on Kayland Revolutions in the last year or so, you might want to do an archive search at Backpacker.com Quote
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