axes

[i_like_sun]

Can anybody shed some general knowledge on ice tools? I've used the Quarks, and I was a huge fan of the curved shape of the whole tool. It was great for, what is it, "piolet appuie" ?????? french technique, please excuse spelling. They also seemed to have a nice swing weight, which is a must.

 

Basically, I'm looking for a new set of tools, and my knowledge about different models is limited. ANY bites to this thread would be rad. Thanks!

Edited March 20, 2007 by i_like_sun

[genepires]

piolet traction (usual waterice technique)

piolet anchor (steepish ground with one tool- traction with a mantle move)

several different dagger positions

 

so why do you want another set of tools for?

[cj001f]

so why do you want another set of tools for?

 

duh, to fulfill the carefully stimulated and massaged consumer angst that keeps this country running.

 

jeesh, some people

[i_like_sun]

Actually, I only rented the Quarks. So I don't own tools.... But yur right, the "carefully stimulated and massaged consumer angst" is a rather strong pull.....

 

pathetic.........

 

 

[fern]

 

Hi i_like_sun,

 

I realize your question is sincere. However, the general topic of the merits of different models and brands of ice tools has been brought up SO many times during the life of this bulletin board. It is not difficult to do a search and pull up tons of discussions - even just by clicking back through the topic lists. So for you to broach the topic again perhaps makes the "regulars" feel like you have failed to do your homework, and as a result your genuine inquiry is met with, if not derision, at least dismissal and annoyance. As a moderator of this forum, having seen this topic hashed out a couple of times a year for the last 4 years, it's hard for me to feel particularily inclined to rebuke that response.

 

A few basic pointers in pulling up results from our search engine:

 

Under the forum lists choose the "Gear Critic" forum or the "Ice Climbing" forum.

Set the date filter for results "Newer Than: 7 Years"

Under the Keywords, perhaps try listing some of the common brands or models eg. Quarks, Vipers, Grivel ... etc. rather than a more vaque query such as "Ice tools"

 

good luck with your quest for information.

[i_like_sun]

Cool. I'm stoked to have the appropriate knowledge to stop destroying my posting credit! Im off to go laugh for a while.....

[Mark_Husbands]

who cares if it's been done before? the whole site is just a time waster.

 

i think the new DMM Rebels look cool. A friend bought some and they seemed like a great all around ice tool. i'm hoping to try them out at some point.

[i_like_sun]

Some waste more time than others....... as you say, who cares?!

 

I'd think these look pretty rad:

 

http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=2&id=14

 

I think we should keep this going for a while, just for entertainment purposes.....see what kind trouble we can raise!

[Blake]

Just for the head's up, the ones with curved handles and aggressive picks for technical climbs are "ice Tools" not ice axes.

 

I have those Grivel Ta-Ka-Oons you are looking at. You can borrow them if you want to, but its not really ice season right now.

[Mr_Phil]

Most tools work pretty well. After that it's just individual preferences.

[i_like_sun]

I'm thinking spring glacier ice......and yes Blake (giggles) I know the difference between axes and tools...... jeeze...... these forums are political suicide traps......

[cj001f]

Most tools work pretty well.

 

Speak for yourself. This tool does absolutely no work.