Question!

[TREETOAD]

Don't let the pedestrian walk all over you!!

[archenemy]

Anything about saggy titties in there? We don't want her to end up all hanging to the ground and whatnot--she already strains her upper body a bunch whilst climbing.

[strumpett]

The Facts:

www.pubmed.com

http://pubs.ama-assn.org/

http://iai.asm.org/

www.nih.gov

www.cdc.gov

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/

and my favorite: http://w3.palmer.edu/smith/vaccinfo/default.htm

 

 

 

Strumpett, whatever your sources are, go and check the actual PEER REVIEWED original journal article. If you are suspicious, check your sources.

 

Thanks.

[minx]

shockingly, layton has just provided the most useful part of the discussion.

 

to those using the argument that strumpett shouldn't listen to a climbing board for climbing advice b/c no one here is an expert. i don't think anyone here is claiming to be an expert just expressing educated opinions and trying to point her to some information.

 

in the past few years, there has been a lot of people trying to link vaccines to several problems including autism. most of this arrives from antectodal evidence and has little basis in actual fact. in fact scientific studies refute many of the claims put forth. these seem to be arguments that are originated by people looking to explain a problem that their child. they get support from others looking for answers. unfortunately antectodal evidence is not the same as empirical findings.

 

there has been occasional issues with various formulations of some vaccines as they enter the market. h/e the common childhood vaccines have decades of history behind them. (v7 i'd like to know your definition of long term). While a small number of children may have an adverse reaction to a vaccine, the vast majority will never experience a problem. The risk of permanent damage is extraordinarily small. there is no evidence grounded in good science to support claims that link any of the common vaccines to chronic illness. the burden to demonstrate safety of vaccine administered to children is extra-ordinary.

 

i chose to wait on giving my child the chickenpox vaccine until it had been on the market for several years. just taking the cautious route but had him vaccinated for the standard pannel of childhood diseases.

 

strumpett's child best not leave the US if not vaccinated. so many parts of the world have such poor vaccination campaigns that the risk of getting anything from polio to measles if fairly high. after seeing some polio victims in India, i don't know how in good conscious you wouldn't vaccinate. heartbreaking.

[joblo7]

(v7 i'd like to know your definition of long term). While a small number of children may have an adverse reaction to a vaccine, the vast majority will never experience a problem. The risk of permanent damage is extraordinarily small. .

 

due to the massive approach ,10 generations. your changing a species.we have no idea what the consequences will be. we have to take a chance, i guess.

 

"While a small number of children......"here i am saying we should trust a mother's intuition to protect her child. which vaccine to avoid etc.....

[strumpett]

 

to those using the argument that strumpett shouldn't listen to a climbing board for climbing advice b/c no one here is an expert.

 

Thanks all; actually I was only trying to find out the law in Washington about going to public schools if your child is not vaccinated. Instead this conversation turned slightly from the original requested info. Oh well, this has been very insightful. I have learned a lot.

 

 

"strumpett's child best not leave the US if not vaccinated"

 

 

 

If we leave the US we will be vaccinated. We are not stupid. One of my goals would be to live in a foreign country with my children for up to one year at some point. This, of course is a future goal.

 

Once again, thanks for all the info. It has really helped.

 

Edited January 6, 2007 by strumpett

[lI1|1!]

what's gray and comes in quarts?

[archenemy]

What?

[Dechristo]

Rumsfeld?

[joblo7]

brains ...... so it cant be rummy

[Dechristo]

He's gray and as Secretary of Defense you've got to be able to deliver a big load.