Climzalot Posted June 21, 2002 Posted June 21, 2002 Any info on the road conditions getting in there? How about the South Face route? Thanks Much cgentzel@aai.cc Quote
Crackhead Posted June 22, 2002 Posted June 22, 2002 Coley...You can climb it with 3 pitons... and no rope. You'll need 4oz. of water and 17 goo packets. you can also duct tape your crampons to your 5.tennies like Renando the amazing. Quote
Dru Posted June 24, 2002 Posted June 24, 2002 according to www.bivouac.com the road is still blocked by avalanche as of last weekend. Quote
Climzalot Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 Anyone been in here recetly or have more current info? Thanks cgentzel@aai.cc Quote
Dru Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 the road is open now. see www.bivouac.com i have heard lots of reports that it is choss despite the fact in all the photos the rock looks mint. take your chances and report back. Quote
Dru Posted July 11, 2002 Posted July 11, 2002 Don at least 3 or 4 separate people have reported to me that the rock was loose and rubble maybe they were just looking from the east ridge or they were backing off on the 2nd pitch I don't know. Maybe they were just running a disinformation strategy? "Oh yeah the Bugaboos - horrible rubble - don't go near them". Quote
Climzalot Posted July 11, 2002 Author Posted July 11, 2002 Whoa, how about that. Useful, first hand information I hardly know what to do with it. Thanks for the feedback Don. Much appreciated. Quote
Don_Serl Posted July 12, 2002 Posted July 12, 2002 19 years ago is a while back, and my memory might be hazy, so i pulled out my photos. sure enough, lots of flakes, some loose "chunks" in the edges of the flake systems, but almost no evidence of loose rock lying on ledges. plenty of square-cut holds, mostly big sweeps of very sound looking rock. a long way between runners, which tells me it's mostly not harder than 5.8. go climb the route and post the real story - i dunno, maybe it IS choss... better yet, force a direct exit right, around or thru the overhangs where we allowed ourselves to get pushed left to the exit chimney. i think i can see possibilities in a couple of the photos. that'd be a step forward. it IS a new century... cheers, don Quote
Don_Serl Posted July 12, 2002 Posted July 12, 2002 dru: choss? CHOSS? and how would anyone know? my recollection: 1st pitch steep, solid, 1/2 ropelength. then a rubbley ramp, but this is pretty much a walk up and left. then straight up thru center of face: highly flakey terrain, mostly right facing corners, dihedral, flakes, etc. u gotta be careful, for sure - this is not diedre or snake, but it's not like flirting with death, it's using light hands and feet. it's mountaineering. the NW route on canadian border peak is WAY scarier, and tons of not-very-experienced people climb that. (of course, a few of them get hurt...) that's maybe 3 pitches, then 2 pitches of the superb stuff in the photo. then a traverse left to the finishing dihedral, more fine rock, in fact tight to find pro. i don't remember the final corner being consistently hard, or loose, but it had one short vertical, icy, handcrack that gave the crux. and u CAN see waddington from the top... Quote
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