archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The new testament is meant to supersede the old you wanker. Yes, but it does not disinclude everything that was taught in the Pentatuch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 When is God complicit and not? The greater question is, does God/goddess/the gods exist? And would he/she/they give a flying fuck that earthlings are bashing each other? It's people's belief of who God is, and their "relationship" to God that causes the trouble. We'd all be better off being agnostics, like me. You don't see me going around blowing up buses. Although I occasionally feel like punching someone in the face. Obviously, you have the Answer. Who knew that simply being noncommital would solve everything? It sure works well in relationships between individuals, of course it will work in relationships among groups. Wait, I think it's working. I suddenly feel like punching you in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 When is God complicit and not? The greater question is, does God/goddess/the gods exist? And would he/she/they give a flying fuck that earthlings are bashing each other? It's people's belief of who God is, and their "relationship" to God that causes the trouble. We'd all be better off being agnostics, like me. You don't see me going around blowing up buses. Although I occasionally feel like punching someone in the face. Actually we'd probably be better of as Buddhists. All you freakin agnostics are screwing up the environment with your self indulgent Hummers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 When is God complicit and not? The greater question is, does God/goddess/the gods exist? And would he/she/they give a flying fuck that earthlings are bashing each other? It's people's belief of who God is, and their "relationship" to God that causes the trouble. We'd all be better off being agnostics, like me. You don't see me going around blowing up buses. Although I occasionally feel like punching someone in the face. Actually we'd probably be better of as Buddhists. All you freakin agnostics are screwing up the environment with your self indulgent Hummers Sweetheart, ALL hummers are self-indulgent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Darlin, not unless your more flexible than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Darlin, not unless your more flexible than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 None. We get the hell back to our own country, our own continent, our own hemisphere, and work on our own problems. We start producing and using biodiesel, and let the people who live in the Middle East work out their own problsm. IsolationistsRUs. Yeah, that worked really well for us in the first half of the 20th century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Obviously, you have the Answer. Who knew that simply being noncommital would solve everything? It sure works well in relationships between individuals, of course it will work in relationships among groups. Wait, I think it's working. I suddenly feel like punching you in the face. I don't think agnosticism is noncommittal. How can you commit to something as unknowable and unidentifiable as the persona of God? I guess I could say, yeah, since I can't concretely identify it, it doesn't exist, but it's so unknowable I can't say it doesn't, either (that's why I'm not atheist). The idea of God is like what happens after death--we all have ideas, but no one knows for sure. No one has come back from being good and dead (I don't count Jesus or Lazurus or NDEs), and said, hey, this is what's it's like...! Live your life accordingly. Who the hell knows? Some people latch onto an idea that gives them peace, power, motivation, anger, etc. Doesn't make it any more real. Or less real. It is what it is, just like the true characteristics or existence of a suprahuman deity. Don't how you all get any work done. Got to get back to it. Fire away, dudes (and don't you know it's not nice to hit girls?). Me, I'm just trying to get in enough posts to get out of stranger status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Poor thing, you'll be an official Newbie in no time! And any belief in any sort of God is an A Priori assumption, just like the belief that there isn't a God. All aspects of the universe are entirely self consistant when either one is assumed, but fundamentally both beliefs are based on a leap of faith. Agnosticism just avoids the decision all together, which is also self consistant and who says "God" has to be a deity? Should read some Taoism.... Trying to name "God" or assign charachteristics or motivations to "God" is rather pointless. And work is for Wussies who have real jobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Selkirk deals with your response best; but I can't resist adding a tiny little jab as well. I don't think agnosticism is noncommittal. How can you commit to something as unknowable and unidentifiable as the persona of God? I guess I could say, yeah, since I can't concretely identify it, it doesn't exist, but it's so unknowable I can't say it doesn't, either (that's why I'm not atheist). Some people latch onto an idea that gives them peace, power, motivation, anger, etc. Doesn't make it any more real. Fire away, dudes (and don't you know it's not nice to hit girls?). First, agnostic does mean noncommital. If you are going to use the word to identify your beliefs, you should know what it means. Look it up. Second, people who believe in God (not the "persona" of God) have found a way to either concretely define it for themselves or decided they don't need a definition to have faith. Third, "latching on to an idea" is a trite way to describe faith. I realize these religious fools might seem like idiots to you--but the majority of the world for the history of man has believed in a god or a system of gods for all of history. I am not saying that makes them right, but it does give one pause... And lastly, congratulations on being a girl. My guess is you will hit your newbie status before you make it to womanhood. Keep posting and work only when you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Dude, go suck yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Dude, go suck yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selkirk Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Dude, go suck yourself. I believe the more eloquent is expression would be fuck you! you fucking fuck Come on, one more post you freakin lightweight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaskadskyjKozak Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Dude, go suck yourself. I believe the more eloquent is expression would be fuck you! you fucking fuck Come on, one more post you freakin lightweight That's better... where is Polish Bob when you need him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 yeah lightweight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Come on guys, she's a girl. Maybe she's just nicer than you. The f word is not ladylike! So back the fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 wow--this is great. i don't even have to get on my religious tirade soap box. y'all covered that nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 wow--this is great. i don't even have to get on my religious tirade soap box. y'all covered that nicely. And we conveniently brought it back around to telling eachother to screw themselves. I LOVE THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Poor thing, you'll be an official Newbie in no time! I thought the next level was N00b! I'm so disappointed. (Ha, there's 25; yee haw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minx Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Come on guys, she's a girl. Maybe she's just nicer than you. The f word is not ladylike! So back the fuck off. would a real "lady" hang out on this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 at the cobra, cobra cabana.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Come on guys, she's a girl. Maybe she's just nicer than you. The f word is not ladylike! So back the fuck off. would a real "lady" hang out on this site? Nope, just a girlie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knotzen Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 You're an angry SOB, aren'tcha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archenemy Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 You're an angry SOB, aren'tcha? You are quite mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra_Commander Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 yes that would be GOB, you clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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