Peter_Puget Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Story If a judge is more qualified than is the FDA, why waste all those tax dollars on labs and technicians? Quote
TheJiggler Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Seems like maybe we didn't spend enough tax dollars on this one, . . . . "The (FDA's) statement that a safe level cannot be determined is simply not sufficient to meet the government's burden," But I guess with the science phobia the Bush Administration has this is to be expected. Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 Story If a judge is more qualified than is the FDA, why waste all those tax dollars on labs and technicians? Come on, Peter, the conservatives are with the Judge on this one. It almost sounds as though you are critical. The FDA is bad for business, is it not? Quote
chucK Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 More information from the NYT "A 1994 law championed by Senator Tom Harkin, Democrat of Iowa, and Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, shields makers of herbal and nutritional supplements from strict adherence to F.D.A. rules that require drug makers to prove that their products are safe and effective. Instead, the law defines nutritional supplements as food, which is assumed to be safe unless federal regulators can prove otherwise. After all, "if food producers were required to show a benefit as a precondition to sale, the sale of foods such as potato chips might be prohibited," Judge Campbell wrote." Sounds like the judge is following the law. So the answer to the implied question of judicial activism seems to be "no". To ban a food, the burden of proof is on the FDA prove that it is dangerous. The FDA's hands are tied in this case as they can't ban low doses of ephedra unless they have proof it is harmful. The current proof out there is basically linked to higher doses. However, since they suspected that low doses of ephedra were harmful, it was considered unethical to study it in humans. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted April 15, 2005 Author Posted April 15, 2005 No offense ChucK I am sure you are a fine litigator but I am waiting for an opinion form these guys! Quote
archenemy Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 After all, "if food producers were required to show a benefit as a precondition to sale, the sale of foods such as potato chips might be prohibited," Judge Campbell wrote." Oh the HORROR! Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 The 1994 law is simply a bad law. The FDA exists because of all the people who used to die from taking "patent medicines" that were not tested or proven safe. Congress should repeal the law or amend it. Quote
chucK Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 What I wonder is how it is determined what is a "drug" and what is a "nutritional supplement". Quote
catbirdseat Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 (edited) Nutritional supplements are all derived from natural products, usually plant extracts, ephedra for example. Drugs are synthetic or semi-synthetic. Edited April 15, 2005 by catbirdseat Quote
foraker Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 So, if 'interpreting the law and the Constitution' is considered 'judicial activism', is interpreting the Bible considered 'religious activism'? Quote
selkirk Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 So does that mean coke and marijuana are nutritional supplements and therefore shouldn't be regulated? Quote
Squid Posted April 15, 2005 Posted April 15, 2005 My special brownies are simply a nutritional supplements. Quote
bootsy Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 So does that mean coke and marijuana are nutritional supplements and therefore shouldn't be regulated? Clarence Thomas might go for this -- if the Coke had a pubic hair on it. Quote
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 So, if 'interpreting the law and the Constitution' is considered 'judicial activism', is interpreting the Bible considered 'religious activism'? It depends on a person's particular point of view. In both cases, it could be considered heresy. Quote
Dechristo Posted April 16, 2005 Posted April 16, 2005 So does that mean coke and marijuana are nutritional supplements and therefore shouldn't be regulated? Clarence Thomas might go for this -- if the Coke had a pubic hair on it. My special brownies are simply a nutrional supplements. I haven't experienced the exumation of Anita Hill before! Quote
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