KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 halvah is mostly sesame paste and honey badass Russkis eat "speck" (pork fat) You mean "salo" - the Ukrainian snicker's bar (imagine a chunk of bacon - just the white part). Quote
Bogen Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 Eating fat is a different issue, we were talking about body fat. I know damn well that eating fatty foods gives you way more energy when working hard. Whether working on the farm or hiking/climbing, bacon and eggs for breakfast gets you further than oatmeal. I suspect that our traditional breakfasts are cultural remnants of a time when people worked a helluva lot harder than we do now. Anyway, the issue is whether the extra weight of excess body fat has enough benefit to make it worth carrying. 10 lbs of speck, or muktuk, or pemmican whatever, and one pound of fleece, will give you way more energy and insulation than the equivalent weight of fat under your skin. Quote
Dru Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 You might call it Salo (sounds like a Finnish hockey player to me) but I've only heard it called Speck. Wash down with vodka. Quote
Dru Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 Hey Bogen fat in the skin and fat in the gut both get burned for energy. I'd rather carry 10 lbs. of body fat than 10 lbs. of butter in my pack. Quote
KaskadskyjKozak Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 You might call it Salo (sounds like a Finnish hockey player to me) but I've only heard it called Speck. Wash down with vodka. Never heard of speck... I'll have to double-check with a native speaker. Russians wash down everything with vodka... Quote
Bogen Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 I'd rather carry 10 lbs. of body fat than 10 lbs. of butter in my pack. Grass is always greener, eh Dru? Quote
Dru Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 I've lost 10 lbs. in a day twice while mountaineering, sure half of that was water, but still... Quote
Bogen Posted January 25, 2005 Posted January 25, 2005 But I think you are a little different than most, you have trouble gaining weight. Most people are fighting those extra couple pounds.... Quote
catbirdseat Posted January 26, 2005 Posted January 26, 2005 I think we should all take advice from Jack Sprat and his wife. If you are fat, carry carbohydrates. If you are lean, carry fat. Quote
ccharles Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 Here is the Bogen method for weight loss, which I don't practice much in winter laziness, but reassume every spring: 1) Exercise at least to the point of a light sweat first thing in the morning, BEFORE you eat. If you are short on time, find whatever exercise will make you sweat fastest, and do that, but make sure you do it every day. 2)DO NOT eat anything in the evening if you can avoid it. Plan ahead to eat early, if you have to eat late, eat really light. I'll second that, I use the same tactics to drop any excess pounds I acquire over the winter season, it works very well. Additionally, I make sure that I eat throughout the day so that I never get too hungry, and at each meal eat to the point of satiation, but not beyond, especially at dinner. If you are going to eat a big meal, it is better to do it earlier in the day, and eat a smaller dinner. Quote
Jedi Posted January 27, 2005 Posted January 27, 2005 ccharles & bogen: What you guys are describing is what is called a "diet", in the US. You are suppose to give it a catchy name and write a book. Watch the fad catch on and then die off after 12 months. In the meantime, you have profitted from your "incredible discovery". "A revolutionary, cutting edge way to burn fat". "The magic bullet." The rest of the world calls it "everyday life". Some scientist on the Discovery channel was saying, at the rate obesity is growing in the US, that 100% of the population in the US will be obese in 70 years. I find that hard to believe but something better change because there will never be that magic pill everyone is waiting on (as they stuff their faces). Not saying anyone here is obese and i wish no one was:( Quote
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