chucK Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 You know the type. You're out on a climb and your partner has a headache. He lets you know. "Oh that's too bad. I got some ibuprofen in my pack. You want some?" Maybe he takes some maybe he doesn't. Then a little while later, you hear about the headache again. Then a little later. Then a little later again. Does this happen to you? Or is it just something about me that resembles a support group? Listen peoples, we are all sympathetic to your plights (well sometimes, the best of us are). But can we just be informed once? Or maybe twice, just to keep us abreast of the situation should it require action? I know it sounds cold-hearted, but the reality of the situation is, NOONE really "feels your pain". NOONE really cares about your headache unless it's going to make you turn around and ruin the climbing day for both of us. It doesn't do anybody any good to continually nag. Let's just please make the decision to either go home now, or just suffer and shut up. Quote
lummox Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 when the limits of my empathy are reached i usually say sumpin like 'is your pusy bleeding or what?' most dudes will stfu after that. Quote
Thinker Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Another perspective: depending on the nature of the climb, I sometimes like to hear about my partner's physical condition. That headache could be the onslaught of altitude related problems, and it's good to monitor their status periodically. Same for diahrrea, fatigue, cramps, and anthing else. Of course, if it's just a day toproping at X38 I wholeheartedly agree with you. Quote
Dru Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 what i really hate is people who whine about how their partners are whiners. just stfu and find a new partner... Quote
catbirdseat Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 I've climbed with people who are the opposite. They stoically endure pain until they can't stand it anymore, then they cause a crisis. One guy ended up with a pulled hamstring. We left him by the side of the trail (it was a nice day) and picked him up on the way back. Quote
chucK Posted January 27, 2004 Author Posted January 27, 2004 good point Dru, complaining about complainers is obviously contradictory. But my post was actually intended to be an analogy in the guise of a climbing story. Quote
chucK Posted January 27, 2004 Author Posted January 27, 2004 Old Lady 1: "The food is terrible here!" Old Lady 2: "Agreed! And such small portions!" Quote
minx Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 jon- i think you just found a new autosig. Quote
Dru Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 maybe you could expend some effort trying to define the difference between criticism and complaining cause it seems like if you think something is perfect any criticism will seem like whining whereas if you hate something you will feel more like any old whiner has some valid points and is a kindred soul. Quote
nonanon Posted January 27, 2004 Posted January 27, 2004 Not to complain or anything but... What I love is when partners complain about the SAME DAMN THING from trip to trip. Like there's some big mysterious "reason" why their skins still won't stick, or their boots still don't fit. Or why they absolutely, positively, hand-to-God HAD to be a half hour late on a powder day... AGAIN!!! Quote
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