Resist the new Rome by Osama bin Laden

[catbirdseat]

Did you know that Pravda has a bulletin board?

 

I sort of get the impression they don't like us too well over there.

[scott_harpell]

what gets me are the dumbasses living here that post anti-american shit there. MOVE! you should see it in russian!

[catbirdseat]

I think that many of the barbs they hurl are well-deserved, but this "grob" guy is just out in a world of his own.

[scott_harpell]

Many of the things they say are ludicrous. Some there say that the U.S. Government sponsored 9-11. but it is indeed good to get both sides of the story. Bring up the cuban missile crisis and you will get a much more likely sounding story from them than the garbage they feed us in school.

[catbirdseat]

Here's a good one. The US sunk the Kursk.

[scott_harpell]

mabe the fact that we put missiles in turkey aimed at russia before they put them in cuba aimed at us.

[JayB]

I can see where they are coming from since Russia has long been in the vanguard of human progress on all fronts - and has always been loathe to encroach upon its neighbors in any fashion whatsoever - and in my mind these achievements make Russia uniquely qualified to criticise the rest of the world in general and the United States in particular on all of these fronts.

[catbirdseat]

Pravda may be a Russian forum, but it seems to be dominated by a couple of Middle Easterners.

[scott_harpell]

did you notice that 1/2 of them posting are RNU or another murderous nationalistic group. the most outspoken rarely speak for any group. they are also suggesting that the landing on the moon was faked. i have found that the most politically outspoken are usually not the brightest crayons in the box.

[Dru]

clearly puget, fairweather, and so on should post more over there to balance things out

[scott_harpell]

If the world authorities had the daring to expose following lies the peace on earth would be secure:

 

- the treacherous sinking of the Kursk submarine by Nato subs that were lurking in the Barent Sea

 

- the fake moon landings of the USA that duped simple souls

 

- the self-inflicted Hollywood style attack of WTC by improbable suicide muslims masterminded by the US zionist neocons with the manifest perfectly controlled implosion of the 3 skyscrapers with hundreds of US fire-fighters inside, the inaction of the Air Defence and of Norad, the absence of investigation and court-martial.

 

Nowadays the moral authorities on the planet are jointly France (with its modern force de frappe) and Russia (with its triad of nuclear deterrence).

[Thinker]

There's actually some pretty good evidence to support the assertion that the original lunar landing was faked.

[catbirdseat]

You must be referring to Capricorn One starring O.J. Simpson.

[scott_harpell]

There's actually some pretty good evidence to support the assertion that the original lunar landing was faked.

 

go on.

[catbirdseat]

Check out the China Forum. The Tiwanese and the Mainlanders have a go at each other. The most striking thing is that their English is much better than ours! I wonder if Harry Pi is registered there?

[cj001f]

I can see where they are coming from since Russia has long been in the vanguard of human progress on all fronts -

JayB-

You may want to look at the change in literacy rates in Russia under the communists.(To among the highest in the world, from one of the lowest) Though it neither excuses, nor negates the horrors, they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

[scott_harpell]

they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

 

paid a pretty high price for litteracy dontchya think?

[stoney]

substantial change in the lives of there survivors. Read or die!

[cj001f]

paid a pretty high price for litteracy dontchya think?

Life has always been cheap in Russia.

 

Look at the past 10 years. They've paid a pretty high price for their now stalled transition to capitalism, haven't they?

[scott_harpell]

they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

 

still gonna have to call this B.S.

[cj001f]

they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

still gonna have to call this B.S.

The change in literacy rates to the current 99%? Or improvement?

[scott_harpell]

they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

still gonna have to call this B.S.

The change in literacy rates to the current 99%? Or improvement?

 

but what were they reading? another example of how little stats mean.

[JayB]

I can see where they are coming from since Russia has long been in the vanguard of human progress on all fronts -

JayB-

You may want to look at the change in literacy rates in Russia under the communists.(To among the highest in the world, from one of the lowest) Though it neither excuses, nor negates the horrors, they did make substantial change for the better in the lives of their population.

 

Yeah - I would have to agree that those who were not killed by the Communists were more likely to be able to read than their predecessors who lived under the Czars. But show me a nation Europe in which the average literacy rate did not increase during that same interval. Means vs Ends.

 

Anyhow - It's just incredibly amusing for me to see Russians who think that their history - go back as far as you like - puts them in a position to criticize any nation for anything outside of literature and Vodka production - the second of which even the Swedes do far better than they IMO.

[cj001f]

but what were they reading? another example of how little stats mean.

Things like signs, letters to each other, you know, highbrow stuff. On a political level, a literate populace is also considered one of the requirements to maintaining a stable democracy.

 

JayB - Russians have little business criticizing anyone in foreign policy. That you think their only accomplishments are literature and a prodigous appetite for vodka shows you ignorance (Math, Physics).

 

Somehow I don't think Pravda is much different than CC. Everyone (including me) is talking out their ass 90% of the time.

[JayB]

I did leave out math, physics, and engineering. Other nations made greater contributions without the death toll though.

 

And I don't think that the folks on that message board were directing their criticism towards America's mathematicians or physicists so I remain amused.