Fairweather Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 KING 5 news just reported that Hwy 20 is closed by a mudslide and will remain closed for the winter. This is the earliest the hwy has ever been closed. Seems kinda strange to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 it is much easier to NOT keep a road open, fairweather. spend time listening to snowplow crews, this is the prevailing attitude towards a seasonal road. And this attitude is backed by administration because of fiduciary concerns. Not so on roads that are suppossed to remain open all year, like Donner Pass (very impressive snow moving operation) and Snoq passes. did you know, for every HOUR the pass is closed, Puget Sound business lose and estimated $485,000 in lost productivity (DOT figure) due to delays over Snoqualamie Pass alone. It's a shame about 20. no quick trip to Harts Pass to poach those bowls... Less plowing, more $$$ left in the discretionary fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 What's different about the snowclearing on donner pass? is it extra fast or something? I'm actually fairly impressed that they can keep our passes open as much as they do. The volume of snow per storm makes it much harder than in the sierras or rockies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 It seems to me that by letting that washout get covered in 50 ft of snow, it will take it that much longer to open in the spring. They won't be able to use the regular snow plows for fear of running into rocks. Then they'll have to use front loaders to get at the site to work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfort Posted October 29, 2003 Share Posted October 29, 2003 I thought the washouts were on the west side, near Colonial Creek and Pyramid Lake... that area barely gets any snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-rock Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 It rarely snows where that mudslide came down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattp Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Actually, if we are talking about Colonial Creek, it snows there fairly often and some years there is a real snowpack there. However, it usually melts before any time when they are likely to be working on opening Washington Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 Colonial Creek Campground (which is now gone, by the way; devestated by its namesake watercourse on Oct. 20) is at 1,600 feet. Not that high but it is in the mountains so more prone to snowstorms. Thunder Arm surface elevation is at 1,200 ft. Pyramid Lake Trail starts at a measly 1,100 ft, which is interesting because I did not realize it was lower than Diablo Lake (which is the same as Thunder Arm's elevation). Pyramid Lake itself is at about 2,700 ft. I agree, though, better to start fixing the washouts now that later, but later (as in springtime) they probably won't be snowcovered. If so, it won't be too deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshK Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 FWIW I talked to a NCNP ranger in person who was up surveying damage on the cascade river road. He said they are actively working on repairing SR20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skisports Posted November 17, 2003 Share Posted November 17, 2003 "Actively" this is the Goverment we are talking about ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philfort Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 JoshK said: they are actively working on repairing SR20. The mountains are actively working on destroying SR20: http://www.kirotv.com/weather/2646126/detail.html I wonder much more is going to come down before the rains stop... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klenke Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Schize! Will there be anything left of Mt. Ross when this winter is all said and done? Did someone spite the Ross family name and now old James Ross is turning in his grave (hint: he's buried in a tomb there in Newhalem)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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