Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Several african nations can barely govern their county let alone worry about human rights. Have you been to africa? Quote
Sphinx Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Good that she got off, but horrible that such a law persists. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 I have no interest in the article. It's a small discussion compared to many other things going on on that continent as far as I am concerned. Stoned to death, shot to death, injection, whatever.... We are killing people right here. Quote
Sphinx Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Cpt.Caveman said: I have no interest in the article. It's a small discussion compared to many other things going on on that continent as far as I am concerned. Stoned to death, shot to death, injection, whatever.... We are killing people right here. There's a difference between killing a mass murderer by lethal injection and killing a woman by stoning for sex outside of marriage. Quote
erik Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Cpt.Caveman said: I have no interest in the article. It's a small discussion compared to many other things going on on that continent as far as I am concerned. Stoned to death, shot to death, injection, whatever.... We are killing people right here. so true. infedelity is a shitty thing anyways. people whom participate in it lack somethings. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 (edited) There's a difference between killing a mass murderer by lethal injection and killing a woman by stoning for sex outside of marriage. Indeed. But that was not the main point of any of my comments. Good luck with your work to clean up africa. I pay more attention to home myself. Also note: In the US it is not unknown for innocent people to get the death sentence. That is a lot less than adultery. Edited September 25, 2003 by Cpt.Caveman Quote
incubus Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 erik said: infedelity is a shitty thing anyways. people whom participate in it lack somethings. I resent that statement Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 The world is not as simple as you imply. Quote
scrambler Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 Cpt.Caveman said: The world is not as simple as you imply. Cpt, I suggest we send our troops over there pronto and set these bastards straight! Not. Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 minx said: Cpt.Caveman said: The world is not as simple as you imply. no, it's not always but sometimes it really is simple. people have a knack for making things complicated It is not simple to change a muslim nations governing IMHO. They have strict standards beliefs and rules. Some more than others. Many christian folks may never understand comprehend or agree with their lifestyles. It's the lifestyle that is also imbedded with the politics in some of these nations. That is what makes something like this not so simple. I dont really see it as a "knack". Quote
Cpt.Caveman Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 minx said: first let me clarify an obvious misconception. i am not a christian. second, i think rationality is an absolute that trascends religion. it simply makes no sense to stone someone to death, particularly for a non-capital offense. throw her in jail, sentence her to community service, whatever, but death is just a tad extreme regardless of religion no? I never said you were a christian. I made a comparison. I agree with your comments regarding the extremity of the crime not fitting the sentence. But I think you missed the whole point of my previous remarks. Quote
erik Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 i think what ray is saying that why do you choose to impose your beliefs on an entire people whom know only that, their entire life is that and their entire heritage is that? it does not matter what outsiders think, they could careless. the muslim's are still a tribal people for the most part, they live their lives as they did a 1000 years ago in many regards. don't impose your morals on someone else, as you did not want to someone to do to you. Quote
scrambler Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 (edited) minx said: first let me clarify an obvious misconception. i am not a christian. second, i think rationality is an absolute that trascends religion. it simply makes no sense to stone someone to death, particularly for a non-capital offense. throw her in jail, sentence her to community service, whatever, but death is just a tad extreme regardless of religion no? Minx, What do you suggest we do? Men see action as a solution to problems. Women just want to talk about problems, it's a relational thing. That's an oversimplification but, in general, tends to hold true. Before you rebutt, I realise that there are always exceptions you can point out. Maybe Dr. Phil can pop in here with his words of advice. Edited September 25, 2003 by scrambler Quote
minx Posted September 25, 2003 Author Posted September 25, 2003 erik said: i think what ray is saying that why do you choose to impose your beliefs on an entire people whom know only that, their entire life is that and their entire heritage is that? it does not matter what outsiders think, they could careless. the muslim's are still a tribal people for the most part, they live their lives as they did a 1000 years ago in many regards. don't impose your morals on someone else, as you did not want to someone to do to you. i largely agree with you. the debate here is over a subtle point. something i see as an absolute and separate from religious morals. i see this as wrong regardless of religion, history, culture etc. killing someone is wrong. i've drawn the line there. i have no qualms with the woman being punished if she's violated their law. but taking the life of another human who isn't threatening yours is wrong! we all put up with plenty of imposition of other's morals each day. i don't see this in the same category. Quote
erik Posted September 25, 2003 Posted September 25, 2003 and your not muslim nor has your culture been ingrained with this thought process for thousands of years. peanut anyone? Quote
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