sabertooth frontpoints

[jeffers]

The chiesel shape holds an edge longer than a point would.

Fwiw, the G-12's haven't given me any headaches, although it takes a decade or to to bring 'em back sharp after a day of mixed. They weren't sharp out of the box either.

[MtnHigh]

epb,

Sabertooths are perhaps the best crampons for all around mountaineering. The 'flatened' front points were designed to provide a larger bite surface area for hardened snow, glacial ice and rock.

And for these reasons they are not suited for verticle water ice.

You should do your research before plucking down $$$ on equipment.

As for how to sharpen. Spend some more time with your Grandfather, great uncle or other elder craftsmen who know how to sharpen anything metalic that needs an edge.

[rat]

"and for these reasons, they are not suited for vertical water ice."

boy, i'm glad that i'm not the only dumbshit around here.

[pms]

With the Sabertooths, I'm wondering what folks think about the "secondary" front points. For my money I prefer the Grivel G-12, and Stubai Tirol design. Much better secondary front point design, plus nicer binding choices.

[daler]

mtnhigh,

I use the sabertoothes almost all the time for water ice. They have become my favorite for most ice conditions ( yes including vertical terrain )They are of course bias but next time you see gadd or house climb take notice that there is a good chance they will be wearing sabertooths. And most likely they will be climbing way harding then the rest of us.I use them through grade 6 ice and love em!!!

dale

PS I use them for guiding in the summers too!!

[ 12-27-2001: Message edited by: daler ]