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Found a better version of the second shot: http://www.metmuseum.org/Collections/search-the-collections/190016682?rpp=60&pg=1&ft=*&who=Carleton+E.+Watkins&pos=32 Click full-screen and you can zoom in real close. There's a pinnacle lower left, if that's what the historical argument is about. (I haven't climbed there since I was a kid.)

Painting of Beacon Rock made sometime between 1857 and 1862 (sig looks like James W. Alden) Castle Rock, Columbia River - 1867 - Carleton Watkins Castle Rock - Arthur B. McAlpin and Charles Lamb - circa 1889

Hey Oleg - You are doing a real solid for your son. Climbers are the biggest ego-maniacs and non-egotists. With that disclaimer, here is my simple advice: 1) Move 2) Adjust Best luck, -Joe

Hey off_the_hook - Holy crap, I think that's the second time we crossed paths. The first time was here: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/977771/TR_Crown_Point_Peeler_Lake_Roc We were heading back down around the same time last Sunday, you were making good time and gave me a startle. I remember your little yellow pack, mine was black and much larger. I'm terrible with recognizing faces but next time I must remember you! I was on my way down from a few days wandering around the lakes, Vagabond Peak & Cloudripper. I'm still sorting through my shots, but a few more and higher-rez versions are here: http://www.qitnl.com/v/070111/ Here are a few shots of Mt Sill: You're fast, dude!

My first taste of Oregon Climbing History was with this gentleman: From: http://www.johannsonline.com/a/heritage.html Ed Johann & his family had a little climbing shop at the Rhododendron House in SW Portland. He and his son-in-law Gary Craghead ran a guiding service, Johann Mountain Guides. From: http://www.oregonphotos.com/Oregon-Gear-Companies1.html I was in 9th grade, must have been '78 or so, and was able to talk them & my parents into letting me tag along. After a basic snow travel course, we went up St. Helens (back when she had a top and an awesome glissade) and Hood. At the time it was like 25 bucks! - life was cheap back then. Real nice people and the best introduction to the sport that anyone could have. There's not much else on the web about them. Curious to hear if any of you ran across these guys.

I'm not familiar with Millet ropes but thought I'd post this anyway: Millet Magma Dynamic Climbing Rope - 9.4mm $119.89 9.4mm http://www.norwaysports.com/millet-magma-dynamic-climbing-rope-green/

Hey off_the_hook - Nice shots! And I do believe I gave you a "howdy" as you were coming down the trail. Somewhere between Barney Lake and the trailhead, last Saturday, 9/11, around 4-5pm. I was starting up around then. You had a couple water bottles strapped to your vest and looked like you were hardly breaking a sweat, man. It was my first time in the area and it's pretty darm awesome. Kinda naked this time of year. Add some snow and it will be even more awesomer. I will return. I saw a ton of stuff I want to do. I took my time, camped at Barney Lake, headed over the donkey passes, over Matterhorn Peak and down Horse canyon. A most pleasant weekend. I took too many pictures and still need to sort through them. They are here: http://www.qitnl.com/v/091110/ Nice to "meet" you. -Joe

I've had to switch to wider boots over the last couple of years due to some foot pain. That, Sole inserts, and tennis balls have done the trick. I've tried pretty much everything above and it's all too narrow, Asolo, La Sportiva, Scarpa, Kayland etc. The only brand that seems to be consistently wide enough is Vasque, from their light hikers to the SuperAlpinsta. I took a pair of these out for a test drive last weekend. http://www.rei.com/product/803192 I think I'll keep them. The Mulaz soles are nice. Unfortunately I think this might be the last batch of mountaineering boots to come from Vasque: http://www.vasque.com/mountaineering-boots No Products Found. Drats.

That's not a bad idea. They could install some of those bacon dispensers next to the anchors. Otherwise I'll just to stick to climbing with vegans. I think some of these LBLT climbers are vegetarians. I'll trade them all the L and T they want and they can give me all their B, mmm, bacon.

I saw this flyer at our local gym, it was something about a BLT climbing club. Have you guys ever come across such a thing? It might have said LBLT, I'm not sure - maybe they like extra lettuce. But I climb with this vegan guy sometimes and he doesn't eat bacon. So we could trade, I could have a BBLT and he could have an LLLT, that would work for both of us. Yum, extra bacon. Personally, I think a BLT climbing club would be real cool. Climb a route, eat a BLT, another climb, another sandwich. If they had some coffee, that would be perfect. I guess that's how a BLT climbing club would work, right? Just checking since the concept is new to me, maybe you guys have heard of this before or have some experience?

Jake, I'm sorry - I was referring to the sign-up procedure at oregonlive. It kept crashing on me. I met a photographer from the paper last week who said the site sucked - yep, he was right. The longer it took me, the more time I had to think "why am I doing this?" And if gave me a moment to realize that as a participant in the media business - as well as a climber - sometimes I just have to say: NO! That is unprofessional, and that behavior is unacceptable. Sure, the third frame was cute, but the last frame was simply WRONG. If they want to discuss beacons, that's one thing. But you do not mock the cards and wreaths which a family is currently laying on the casket of their child. Discussions here or on other message boards are one thing. SummitPost, somewhere its gush of ego diarrea, referenced the respectful handling of the subject here. But a professional organization such as The Oregonian (I have a sick feeling this came out in print) is duty-bound to hold itself to journalistic standards. They are not entitled to piss on the graves of their own front page. No joke. That was completely insensitive; let's see if they have the guts to apologize. I would.

I've been following this story here and elsewhere. I'm just a nobody and keep my mouth shut. But since I'm stepping out, the first thing I'd like to express is my condolences to the family and friends of the missing and diseased. I can't imagine how hard it must be on these folks. As a climber, that's the thing that scares me the most. I appreciate the detailed and thought-out responses listed on line. I waded through their shitty sign-up process to register mine: --- Dear Mr. Bors and the editors of this publication, I have been visiting this site (and others) over the last couple of weeks to gather information about the climbers lost on Mt. Hood. The lead story on your site at this very moment is "Mount Hood climber's memorial service draws hundreds" As a morbid mockery of your lead story, I find the last panel of this strip entirely offensive. You owe a family and hundreds of people an apology, at the very least. Would it not be common sense to display some common decency and respect? What's even worse: you didn't even bother to report on the funeral yourself. The story and the photo were wired in from the Associated Press. Rather you chose to invest your resources in this vulgar comic. Come to think of it, your readers could use an apology, as well.

Here's a link for climbing http://picasaweb.google.com/rch.com and hiking http://www.rcarchive.com/hhg/ on Oahu. I used to have a few more links but they seem to be defunct. There isn't really any backpacking on Oahu - nothing I would recommend. There are a few campsites on the beach, but they are all pretty sketch. You certainly wouldn't want to leave anything of any value in your tent. Some spots are locals-only, if you get my drift. There are a couple of hostel-type places where you can pitch a tent; not cheap nor much of a wilderness experience, but a little more safe. On northshore Kauai is the Na Pali Coast. Pretty famous. I think they just did some horror movie about it. http://hawaii.gov/dlnr/dofaw/nars/reserves/kauai/honoonapali Don't know much about the Big Island, sorry. Oh, here's one more: http://www.rockclimbinghawaii.com/outdoor_main.html

Hi Mark - I've done this a few times, it's no problem at all, totally legit as far as they are concerned. I've got a weird last name so all I (and my friends, if they turn up first) gotta say is my surname and site number, no other info required. Sometimes I'll send my pals a PDF of my reservation.gov receipt, just in case - never been asked for it before. If I'm running late or something's gone hinky, I'll just give them a ring on the way in. I think I just use the number listed at the website - (209)372-8502. The rangers up there are pretty cool.

>That view down the falls is a great shot, was that Yosemite Falls? Nevada. Great shots!