kevbone

Im not the one who mentioned dreamcatcher dru....try reading a little better.

Too late!

Rent or barrow a hammer drill. Bro, if you are standing on the ground with leverage, with my drill you could drill each hole in 30 seconds instead of 45 minutes a whole. I say 45 minutes because by the sound of it, you are a beginner, and have never drilled a hole for a bolt. Go get a drill. Screw all that work. Just my thoughts.

Indeed. Especially in reference to your obvious OCD with this site. Compare my post count with yours and divide it by the amount of time you and I have been registered members. As for the content, sometimes I wonder if you are certifiably insane, trolling, or just really that damn stupid. Hey KaskadskyjKozak.....STFU. The amount and the time in which it takes you or anyone else here to post are irrelevant and you know it. Who give a crap how fast ones post count grows? Step away from the bong!

Renaming a "butress" that has a name like "the west face" to a acutall individual name, is cool. Renaming a cool name to another cool name just because you climbed it in a different style is lame. Free it is not better, just different. The Optimists already had a name. I would have liked to have heard "Beth Rodden just freed the first pitch to "the great roof" at Smith rock". And then the specs to go along with it. Like the history to the route and how a aid line there could not have been freed by the local hardman.....so they had to bolt it. Or maybe it could have been freed....oh wait, we will never know now.

Yo G-spotter! does G-string rhyme with G-spotter?

At least 30 or so. OMG

Is it me or do the "elite" climbers get to do what they want?

But then there wouldnt be any teachers anymore.

Let you lead? By all means...you will be leading EVERY time from now on!!!

This is directly related to The Optimists! So another interesting question. You bolt an old aid line because you don’t have the balls to lead it on the existing gear….that is supposed to be “better style”. And then you get to rename it? WTF? I would think renaming it is a slam of disrespect of those who came before you. The “renaming” thing is kind of a new thing of late. Potter free’s an old aid line that has been established since the early 70’s and he gets to rename it? I completely think this is crap. Its not a new climb, just a different way of climbing it. Its not “better style” just different style.

Off....thanks for cutting me off. I was gettin alittle out of hand. All though my response to the "good Dr." was not out of line I believe. If he gets his snide remarks to stay then I at least get to respond. I will try to respond in "rock climbing" kind of way!!

That is funny....same thing on my side. Ask a really good friend why they voted for Bush and the response is "I believe in morals and family values". That kind of response always has messed with me. Do the republicans have more family values than the Democrates? WTF.

My buddy has climbed longer and harder than you could possible dream of. He aides harder than you and free climbs better and harder than you. Has climbed on 4 of the 7 continents. Has established free and aid climbs all over the world. Has spent over 20 days on walls in the Karakoram range. G-spotter. Aid climbs in his back yard in west Seattle. Wacks off on the internet all day long. Makes fun of other REAL climbers because he will never be one.

Hey bro…piece of advice. You’re losing this conversation, better keep your trap shut, before you make yourself out to be a total idiot……wait. Too late. No such thing as hard aid. Dude…..ssshhhh! 50 footers? My buddy has taken 150 footers 4000 feet off the deck 100 miles from the nearest town of 50 people. You got know room to talk!

Now I know you don’t actually mean that. Because you would truly be the fool. Brad has the third acent of Jolly Roger A5 on El Cap, which he SOLOED and the third acent of Bishodo ( I know I did not spell that right) A4+ on half dome and many 20 day outing at 20,000 feet which usually come in at A4+. Are you telling me these are worthless?

Did Lynn Hill rename The Nose? No. Did Paul Pianna and Todd Skinner rename the Salathay wall. NO. If they tried, they would get laughed out of the park.

G-boy….are you stupid? I don’t think so personally, but with comments like that, I question you. I have a friend who has the FA ( That’s FIRST ACCENT. Not FFA first free accent) on several large formations around the world. Like Mt Thor and Mt Asgard and Nameless tower. Are you going to tell him to his face his accents are REAL….that’s what I thought. Your turn to STFU.

I don’t think so. What better or different style did they do it in? What did they use different ropes or aid with different gear. Please be more specific. I don’t care if they have been doing it before Christ….i still think its fookin lame. What constitutes a name change? Freeing it over aid? That is lame. So if I freed some easy 5.8 at smith with a blind fold on…..I get to rename the route. I mean….come on; I just freed it in a bolder style. Right?

Jen...its right off the belay. you know....the lip.

So another interesting question. You bolt an old aid line because you don’t have the balls to lead it on the existing gear….that is supposed to be “better style”. And then you get to rename it? WTF? I would think renaming it is a slam of disrespect of those who came before you. The “renaming” thing is kind of a new thing of late. Potter free’s an old aid line that has been established since the early 70’s and he gets to rename it? I completely think this is crap. Its not a new climb, just a different way of climbing it. Its not “better style” just different style.

Too late!!

It can happen!!!

That is a good way to describe it.