kevbone

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Its part of your climbing. Not mine. We are thinking on different levels.

how do you see that you are keeping it hush hush by posting here?

No....its spray dummy. What, you dont like the climb? I think its a good warm up. I will never touch the route with my drill but I would not be mad if someone did.

I do like the hidden little rope that you can clip to get to the repel anchor on climbers left, but why the need to get to the top of the other climb?

Let me ask you another question. Would you give up that tax break in exchange for the lives of over 3000 military dead people? You know what I am asking.

Thanks for pointing out how selfish you are! Thanks for making me laugh! That is hilarious. No I don’t want that. Where do you get that idea? I was talking about one specific climb. Thanks for telling us what the FFA was thinking. You know him and you where there. Right? Or maybe they did what they did because they are idiots and did not know what they were doing. More good humor. Read the very first line in my original post.

Since Shehawks cannot answer this question. Name one good thing that Bush has done for this country? Can anyone else? Shehawks, you voted for him. Now back up your vote bitch. Its been over 6 years now, he has to have done something good, right? What is it?

That reasoning sounds like you have never put up a route, or a popular route. I believe the FFA/FA has a responsibility to the climbing community for everyone that follows. That is how I approach putting routes up. I have put up or been part of putting up over 40 routes.

Not to push your buttons JH, but you placed two brand new bolts on grassy ledges as an anchor for a fixed line that was previously tied off to a tree just so it was less visible at 500 feet off the deck. That way one could get down over the ledge to top rope a climb. I am in the mind set that either get creative without drilling more bolts or lead the damn climb ground up. Just my thoughts.

I don’t want risk free. That would be called a top rope. I just think this particular route was not bolted responsibly. If someone falls and hurts themselves in such a way that they never climb again. Are you going to say tough shit to them?

Exactly, lol dam. Back to conspiracy of the DEM's I personally do not see a conspiracy. The Bush crime family has not been smart in covering up there mistakes. They will all be punished in due time. Okay for my humor list the crimes please. Here it is Kevbone. If you want to play. Sorry Seahawks, I had a meeting to attend. I see Bush crimes as follows. Lying every time he opens his mouth. If that is not a crime, it should be. He has the deaths of all who is currently died in the (in my opinion) illegal war in Iraq on his mind. He lied about why we are there. His administration was asked why they fired all the attorneys, they did not have to respond but because they are all morons they opened there fat mouths and responded with a lie, stating they were termed for performance reasons. Lying to congress is punishable up to 5 years in jail. After reviewing the attorney’s latest performance review, how could one actually believe that they were fired for performance when there is documented proof that they were praised for performance? Presidents can fire who they want, but even presidents can not lye about why to congress. Bush will go down in flames. Now, if you don’t like my answers, I can not help you. But please answer my question. Name one thing good the Bush administration has done for the USA? You said name just one good thing. He's kept a fool like you out of the office. Ah....seahawks the sidesteper. Your one good thing he has done for the American people is keeping a cc.com poster out of office? I do feel for you. I know its hard to answer that question because there is no answer. Bush has trashed this country and is showing no signs of letting up.

What about adding bolts when the anchor was previously a tree?

Do you wear leather shoes??? Fucking Hypocrite. Leather shoes? What are you talking about? I dont recall ever wearing fish made shoes. Idiot. Some animal has to die for your shoes huh? Does that make sense? How old will it live? What the fuck are you talking about? You make as much sense as my pencil.

Whats really funny is that i used to live in a van down by the river.

Do you wear leather shoes??? Fucking Hypocrite. Leather shoes? What are you talking about? I dont recall ever wearing fish made shoes. Idiot.

Personally, I think you guys have your heads up your asses. It's ok to bolt the route and have bolted anchors, but not ok to add a bottom anchor? This is pure arrogance. Not if the FFA or FA did not do it first, and remember most of climbing is pure arrogance.

I believe was first top roped then later retroed by someone else. Its really easy to sit at your computer and call me a whimp. You have not climbed the climb. I have climbed up over 30 times and will continue to climb it. I would preferr to have another bolt.

Not answering another one of your stupid question till you go back and answer mine. idiot. Gee Shehawks....sounds a little like you cant answer his question. Why because he has done nothing good. No I already answered him previously. I ask him a question and nothing. Therefor I will not answer his shit if he can't reply. Ok....if you are going to play a kids game then i will ask the same question. Name one thing Bush has done good for America? Can you do it?

If it was over hanging I would agree. The end is about 20-25 foot of slap over an overhang. The last bolt is about 15-20 feet from the anchor and its probably a 10.a finish 10 feet above the last bolt. Ru....its a little sketchy. But doable. It has been climbed this way for years. That doesnt mean it is safe. I freak out everytime I do it. On the other hand the route is rated 11.c. and the hardest moves are lower, so one could say if you can climb 11.c you should be able to pull the 10.a runout at the end. I my opinion there is no gear on the route at the end. Why is there no bolt there? "a .10a runout on an .11c route" that is the answer to why there is no bolt... plus, why does every stinkin' route need to be sanitized??? get your shit together, and fire the thing or come back another day...plus, you can down climb or get a tr from someone... I agree. Taking a 20 footer into space is one thing, did you read the comments above? It’s a slab finish. If you fall in the wrong place you have the exposure to get hurt in such a way as to NEVER CLIMB AGAIN. I don’t care what the fucking grade is. It should have been bolted more responsibly.

Not answering another one of your stupid question till you go back and answer mine. idiot. Gee Shehawks....sounds a little like you cant answer his question. Why because he has done nothing good.

Blowjobboarder.....thank god I put this in spray....or you would not be able to respond to me.

If it was over hanging I would agree. The end is about 20-25 foot of slap over an overhang. The last bolt is about 15-20 feet from the anchor and its probably a 10.a finish 10 feet above the last bolt. Ru....its a little sketchy. But doable. It has been climbed this way for years. That doesnt mean it is safe. I freak out everytime I do it. On the other hand the route is rated 11.c. and the hardest moves are lower, so one could say if you can climb 11.c you should be able to pull the 10.a runout at the end. I my opinion there is no gear on the route at the end. Why is there no bolt there?

Thats funny.

Disclaimer: I will not do this. Just for discussion sake, I would like to hear what others say about retroing an already retroed climb at Broughtons Bluff. If you have ever climbed Critical Mass, you know the end is a little on the sketchy side. The guide book states its optional gear at the top. What gear? Way off to the right or way off to the left? But not on the route. I know people who have actually fallen off at the wrong place and took the 20-25 footer. If she was not wearing a Helmut she might not be with us today. So would anyone else like to see a bolt go in at the end? I would. This coming from someone who has climbed this route over 30 times. I still get sketched at the end. Point is the bolting job was not done well in the first place. Do we have a responsibility to fix it? Also none of this would be done without asking the FFA person or team.