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why don't you use all that emotional energy for something constructive? Drinking beer for instance Or climbing.....or parenting....which I am off to do right now.....

Pink is coming....pink is coming.....

Why wait....cheers...... :brew:

I have now, after a close read, determined that you feel that there are too many bolts. Not enough bolts Inappropriate bolting Irregular and uneven bolting There should be more bolts but there are already too many Bolts should be removed And Bolts should be added Should have no bolts where there are already bolts Should have the shitty cracks beaten out and enlarged Should have the cracks removed. Someone is unhappy when the joy and love of climbing should be flowing through them. Given all that is there and the style it was done, just step up to the plate and fix it - just toss another bolt in there and call it a day. I think that route was bolted trad style and use to have 1/4 inch bolts and it was later rebolted with 3/8". I'm not kidding. I was serious about touching base with Ujahn earlier too. cya Geoff, thank Kyle for the pics the other day - that was great, I'm sooo pumped! Tappet bros. rule like big dawgs-thanks. Thanks Bill....I don’t know who Ujahn is. I won’t be tossing in another bolt…….not worth it…..just getting the history with a small bitch session on the side. The guide states he hung on pins and bolts to clean……kind of insinuates rap bolting…..not ground up trad…..not that it matters…… See you at Jims…..if not sooner.

Runouts? Ha ha! funny. good one. You are kidding, right? Not sure if run out is the correct way of stating irresponsible bolting job? I just would have done it different. I was 12 feet off the ground with my hand in a bomber hand jam and still 4 or 5 feet to go to the next bolt. The last bolt was at my foot……would for sure hit the ground. I could have supplemented with gear.

I respect those who came before me…..meaning I may not like it…..but I will not change anything. If I did not respect those who came before me….I might rip all the bolts out of the wall and do it right IMO. Of course I would never do this. So I respect the fact that someone got there before me. I do enjoy climbing there. I just wish I was told there was gear…..I could have supplemented gear in-between the run outs.

I agree it’s a bit run vertically but if you look at the second and third route from the right…..there are two bolts not even 12 INCHES apart horizontally. At first glance….I did a double take. I know there is an arête splitting these bolts, but from the ground its looks bad. I thought the 11.- (second route from right), was bolted irresponsible. The guide states you will not deck…..I find that hard to believe. I agree the cracks are dirty (ever heard of cleaning?). Not to be a complainer but…..it looks like someone just got lazy. Most of the cracks I dug my hand into would take great gear…..I am not saying the place does not need bolts…..only a lot less. Climb at your own risk. Yes to have it close for an accident would suck….but the question remains…..does the “possibility” of closure out weight 50 years of ethics? Just asking! I disagree, but I do respect those who came before me.

Uh? Are the moderators playing jokes with me......

Did she have her "walker" with her?

Great pics......thanks for sharing.

I never knew that there was a time that is was OK to bolt cracks.....interesting. Thanks. I am going there tomorrow for my lunch hour......its better than not climbing on my lunch.

Eruption on violin.....this is incredible. PoD78foaZ4o

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Very interesting!

He may have no soul.....but the boy know how to play.... 4oL_TvwHjk8

I saw this as well.....a little creepy at parts, but over all great.

So do I. Where were you on 9/11? I was in Squamish on a two week trip. Crazy trying to get back into the country four days later. The guy staired me and my long hair friends down for what seemed like 2 or 3 mintues without saying a word......just stairing at me. Creepy......

I am a little confused? What do you mean by this post? Are you referring to LO climbing? Thanks.....

OK, but I might have to ignore all of you then. Bone, couple of the pdx after work group has met there. Should join us occasionally. Check yer e-mail's. You're welcome BTW. Also, I think it's because the rock is so friable. It you note the left side, I think the top of the left route may not be long for the world.... but it's a hard call. Thanks bill.....got it.....

why don't you use all that emotional energy for something constructive? I think you are reading into something that is not there. This is a serious question. I recently climbed there on my lunch hour……I thought (for what is was) it was kind of a neat place to have in your back yard. But they did bolt some obvious cracks……just trying to find out the history…..thanks….. Kevin

Who is the developer? When? Why did they bolt cracks?

Nice work......

If you did not write that....I wonder who did?

I played two gigs in Olympia, one at a catered dinner with 120 people and the other at an art gallery opening with about 400 people at. I played solo acoustic guitar. Super fun. Then went to the Alice in Chains/Velvet Revolver concert on Sunday night……. That concert was frickin great.

Extreme is a mild way of putting it.