kevbone

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Now that's fair and balanced.

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Yesterday the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the foreign prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have the right to challenge in U.S. civilian courts the government's right to hold them. Bout fucking time. This is a great day for America. :tup: "By a 5-to-3 vote, the court said that the procedures set up by the president violate both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the laws of war set out in the Geneva Conventions." Link!

Work for whom? The parent? It certainly does not work for the child. The kind of discipline I believe in is talking to your children. If they act up…..they might need to be taken out of the situation for a moment but never hit or any kind of time outs. My wife’s entire family (which is huge) never once has been disciplined with violence (spanking) or time outs and they all turned out kind and gracious. I try to model my parenting with them. 1……2……(you better do what I say)……..(or else im gonna beat you)……..3……..whip, whip, whip! Uh….I don’t think so! All I see with that is the parent pushing there agenda on the child. This is of course…..my opinion. Thanks all for keeping this spray free, and continuing to have a sound (even if we have different styles) discussion.

Rob....are you a 2 pump chump?

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I don’t believe in hitting your child or time outs or any of that form of discipline. What I hate to see the most is when parents count…..holy crap I cant even be around that kind of abuse.

Minx...so good of you to drop by.

Sometime around 2010. They are currently leaning towards a toll bridge. You think a toll bridge is going to be significantly faster? I have no idea. I dont have the solution. Something has to give.....

FW's fearless leader.... Pinks fearless leader my fearless leaders

Hopefully with the top down. Yeah you guys will look real cool sitting in traffic grid lock waiting to cross the I-5 bridge Only between the hours of 6am- 9am and 3pm - 7pm.....and that is all before they build us a new bridge.......

Hopefully with the top down.

Shitbird is a strong word. Lets just stick with ignorant....shall we! Most republicans are......

How would you know? You live in Vancouver Because Vantucky is a suburb of Portland.

Yes there is actual climbing in the city limits.

Clip bolt? There is a ton of traditional climbing in Ptown.....

Why do you hate smiff? Portland rules......there are 5 climbing areas in the portland area not includind smith.

Very much true. Matter of fact we try our best to not let him cry for anything. We don’t use the work “no” with him either. Seems to be working. He does not throw tantrums…..at all! Basically we try our hardest to all be meeting his needs. I certainly understand the concept that kids hear the word no to much and I am just as guilty as the next parent of using it way to much myself. However, how can you go through life without some form of the word no... Daddy, can I play with this loaded gun? I wanna put my hand in hand in that fire... Whether you use the actual word, no, or some other form of it, it is essential to communicate. So if I just give my kid whatever she wants when she cries, what am I teaching that child? Oh, I get my way when I cry hard enough. (Not saying that is what you do though Kev.) There are plenty of times when consoling a crying child is the right thing to do, ie - fall down w/an ouwie or any other various things but that is much different than coddling a child just because they are crying and rewarding a child for crying. All the "experts" will agree, and I agree too with first hand experience, that children need firm boundaries and will actually appreciate you more as a parent when you set such boundaries and stick with them. When we let our children do whatever, whenever, it demonstrates to the child that the parents really don't care enough to to do what is best for the child. I'm not saying that kids understand this on a conscious level but I really have seen it work, not only in my situation but with other parents/kids too. Who are the experts you are referring too? I try my hardest to not use the word no with my child. That is not to say I don’t communicate no to him….just like you referenced above. “Miles if you touch the fire you will get burned”…..or for some parents “no” don’t touch that! I certainly don’t let my son do whatever whenever, he has serious structure to his day. He wakes up at the same time every day. Takes a nap same time and bed at the same time. I do give him a WIDE birth when out and about and at the house.……I just follow him around and let him explore and make sure he does not hurt himself. I try my hardest to talk to him before I pick him up or transition him to something else. Even as a baby I would tell him I was going to pick him up to go change his diapers before I touched him…… I think a lot of tantrum behaviors have formed in kids because of the parental “boundaries” and “agendas” parents place on there children. I believe (to comment on something you said a while ago today) you train a pet and guide your child.

Why Rightfully? Did they do something wrong? Just asking.

I asked for the definition of American hater GROUPS?

What or who is an American hater group? Someone who does not agree with you? I tend to feel if you don’t hold this administration accountable for it dealings…..it will open itself up for dictatorship in the future. If this administration has done nothing wrong than they should not be afraid of an inquisition…..right?

mmmmm…….why is it that the government pushed to have all telecom companies immune from prosecution? Because they did something illegal? Just maybe? mmmm who ordered the telecom compaines to do this illegal act? mmmmmm???? Put that in your pipe and smoke it……

No shit! I love this thread......

Pretty hard to show someone something when ignorance is there guide.......but I will try.

I did not say we give him everything he wants. I said we try our hardest to meet his needs. There is a difference. And instead of saying "No" dont play with that.....we go over and talk to him about why its not time to play with that and try to distract him.