cranestyle

Does anyone have any beta for the route down the trail from the schoolroom area that goes through the big roof? The route appears to up a thin crack for 100 feet then over a orange rock roof to a bolted arete to the top. It a good looking line that I would like to give a go, any info would be appreciated. Thanks

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I'm in the transportation planning business and I would recommend sending comments via the project website (http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/SR14/MarbleRd/feedback.htm) with specific details about recreational uses of Ozone. Also, the WSDOT will need to know the exact location of the parking area. The parking area for Ozone is likely located in the right-of-way for SR14, so WSDOT should know that cars will be parked in this area. The worst case would be that WSDOT would turn the parking area into a new storm water treatment facility (open ditch) which may cut back on the parking area. Also, if Ozone is indeed located on NPS land it may be considered a 4(f) property, which is "any publicly owned land from a significant public park, recreation area, or wildlife and waterfowl refuge, or any land from a significant historic site." I think under 4(f) WSDOT couldn't limit access to a recreation area, but this may be a weak argument since the parking is on WSDOT right-of-way and Ozone is not an "official" recreation area. But anyways, send comments to WSDOT if you can't make it to the public hearing. Remember, try to be as detailed as possible in your comments; project scoping is not a democratic process, but a method for WSDOT to hear issues from the public that weren't raised during the inital project development.

Left camera behind at Red Wall on March 4. Please email me if you find it, dorkboat2004@yahoo.com. Thanks

I camped overnight in February! There was a little snow near the base, but not much. That probably doesn't help you any, but I doubt there's going to be much up there now. It's been wet, but not that cold.

I didn't know hand/wrist clinics existed. Thanks for the info, I pass it on.

I'm actually investigating for a friend. I don't think he has nerve symptoms. It wasn't from computer use, but repetitive motion and climbing is definitely an aggravating factor. He's tried "fixing" the problem, but it still persists after months of resting, stretches/strengthening, hot/cold, etc. What else do you suggest?

Anybody know a good sports medicine doctor in Portland? Location: SW is ideal, but not necessary. Injury: tendonitis in the wrist, not sure of exact diagnosis. Tried Physical Therapy, but looking for some more information and thought sports medicine is the way to go. thanks!

Has anyone heard of perspective? There is a body length and then some between each bolt here. This isn't some kind of bolt ladder. That said, after climbing this route, I think there were too many bolts and didn't use them all (not to mention it's squeezed in.) I just wanted to point out that exaggeration only discredits an argument and pictures don't always tell the truth.

here some of my photos of Flagstone: http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=10021&size=big&sort=1&cat=last1 http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/plab/showphoto.php?photo=10019&size=big&sort=1&cat=last1 Despite all the debate it is a fun place to climb

Just out of curiosity, which ones?

I agree with you here, some exposure would be good. I haven't done a ton of aiding and find it to be pretty tedious, but I think in a short amount of time you can leanr a lot. I know more about my gear and how to use it to its fullest potential. Aiding may not be the most expedient way to get to your friend, plus it's some extra gear to haul around, but I highly recommend learning to aid (for a little bit anyway.)

I don't have any specific climbs in mind. I'm still pretty new to trad and leading in general, so I just find a good looking crack and get up as far as I can. Any suggestions for a good 5.8? I don't have the confidence for much more just yet (fumbling with nuts and friends half way up a crack can take it out of you.)

I agree, Beacon is cool, but I've never heard anything bad said about it. Dr_Flash_Amazing reiterated most of what I'd heard about the Butte, but like I said, there's a lot beneath that grungy exterior. Back to Beacon, I've only followed on the SE Corner. It was pretty exposed on some parts and lots of fun. Too bad it's closed so much of the year.

I just had to give a shout out for Rocky Butte in Portland. I think it's a really underrated location. Granted, it's a top-ropers paradise, but I've done some aiding and someday when I get the guts I hope to do some trad as well. Then there is the graffiti, occasional underwear, and used needles. But, if you watch your step on the ground, the climbs can give out some big rewards. So, this thread is for anyone who would like to share in the excitement of having a local spot to hit up after a day in the cube. My current favorites are White Rabbit and a variation off the left of Emotional Rescue. What's yours?