KaskadskyjKozak

Hang BLTs off of them - even easier to find!

bolt it, sporto!!

There are always people ready to offer unsolicited advice. Oh well. :-)

My youngest son and I on the top of Mt. Si

My 10-year old has been up Si at least a half-dozen times over the last few years, but we always seem to go when the Haystack is very wet, or covered in snow. Yesterday we headed up and bagged it. We left the Little Si TH midday and go to the first lookout point on top in 1:45(!), and then continued straight on to the scramble. As I wanted this to be safe and stress-free, I had brought harnesses and a 30m glacier rope. I climbed up 100 feet only to be a bit short of a nice tree anchor, so my son "simul-solo'd" with me about 20-30 feet before I threw a cordelette around the tree and brought him up. "Pitch 2" got us to the ridge, and "Pitch 3" to the summit. It was good fun and practice/intro to multi-pitch "climbing". :-)

Gestapo??? LOL. Welcome to the Tin Foil Cap Society of Hyperbole and Paranoia!

I think you have to contact an admin to do this.

Which of course you know with your omniscience and top-secret security clearance.

A nice Chianti, of course! And don't forget the side of fava beans!

The Zombie Apocalypse is here!

I doubt it has anything to do with risk and is just about cutting "students" slack. Would you be happy if they offered a senior citizen discount too? :-)

POTD! Amen, brother!

Wrong. You are boring, prole. Over and out.

"PatrioEjacula" - yeah that starts off the conversation on the right foot.

Choose the appropriate venue to air the criticism and words to set the tone. And timing, timing is everything. Prole and j-b fail on all three.

I obey party size limits, quotas, closures and regulations. I sleep on rock and snow or established camps. I avoid stepping on vegetation. I pack my shit out of fragile environments. Etc. You really are a clown.

Prole climbs?? Touché

Are you wishing Prole ill-will on his climbs? Not good.

Yep. And let's ignore that Americans are generous, help others, and that here we actually talk about and do things for those less fortunate. But none of that counts in the OP's original chart.

Combine the chart with the personality and the thread title... and the fact it's posted on the flame forum of a climbing website. Yep, pretty useless.

Annoyance is more what comes to mind, because the raising of issues usually comes from useless, whiny turds like you.

Which is why it's so interesting that Kojak immediately brings it up whenever a social issue is raised. Personally, I think it's probably a far less effective means of engagement than reason or humor. Or provocation, for that matter. I simply posted the chart, guilt entered the conversation somewhere else down the line... I did not bring it up, Rob did. Post #2, repeated for you edification: Rob: "Rad's guilty-liberal whine about having to explain the crying native americans to his children was the best." And it seems to be what you progressives live by - trying to impose "guilt" on people who are better off than others. So Rob is actually spot on.

You seem to think that you can "win" arguments by making them into a hypocrisy debate. It's called the fallacy of argumentum ad hominem, in case you haven't heard of it: "an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it." You rarely address the merits of the climbing issue, and when you do it's a personal attack [which is allegedly prohibited on this site.] By the way, the Valley of the Kings was "altered" 3500 years ago to serve as a royal cemetery by Egyptians who had neither bolts nor an interest in climbing. Archaeologists working there today, including myself, are heavily involved in restoration and conservation to an extent you clearly wouldn't appreciate. By the way, do you climb at Index? It's a big "altered" rock quarry. The big question is, what are YOU doing about the way YOU treat your climbing environment TODAY? I don't expect a reasonable response. Let the desert reclaim the VK. Cut *those* bolts!