KaskadskyjKozak

Boner: quit while you're behind.

which is preferable to your pillow-biting...

this year the Boston Basin was 95+% snow covered in mid-July. If vegetation/impact were the issue, there should have been nolimit as all camping could have been done on snow or rocks.

You mean like you and Karl Marx?

I wish my brothers would climb... they seem to think it is a sport for the mentally insane. Nice job!

I can see how KKK wouldn't be bothered with a closeted white supremacist in the white house but I thought kev was a librul Ron Paul is a kook. You failed to get the jab at boner, but no surprise there as you are a humorless moron.

I also find it bizarre how every location has its own "rules" - even when they fall under the same ultimate jurisdiction. For example, in MRNP (NPS), the permit system is based by total number of climbers - so there are say 100 slots open at Camp Muir (or whatever the # is), not based on the # of *parties*. But at Boston Basin, Torment, Forbidden, Triumph x-country zone - etc, all of which are managed by the NPS as well, the quotas are based by # of parties, irrespective of size. In the Olympics you can register for permits a month out (Flapjack Lakes, Glacier Meadows) - in NOCA... nope, one night prior - unless you are a guide service. Then there are some places where the maximum party size is 6 and others where it is 12. Then you switch over to the NFS and get different rules and different registration systems (e.g. the Enchantments).

Ron Paul for president!!

One time I showed up on Friday evening for weekend permits and 4/6 permits for Boston Basin had been reserved by guide services. This seems extremely unfair. Either guides should be under the same rules as the public (no advanced reservations) or there should be a limit to how many permits out of 6 can go to guided parties (say 2). As to the party size limit of 12 - other areas have a limit of 6 in the N. Cascades. Boston Basin seems to be one exception. Areas like Redoubt/Spickard, Snowfield Peak, etc are definitely 6. I agree that the areas are too large. Hell, Boston Basin is gigantic. Why can't there be a special zone under Forbidden for climbers? Or say, 1 spot at the W ridge for bivying? OTOH, the permit system has driven climbers to do this route C2C and I know from first-hand experience that even with a permit you can get caught in a huge cluster-f* involving C2C climbers (no permit required)

Nicely done, Nelson.

WTF indeed.

Indeed. Climb up. :-)

Why were they doing this?

We were too busy to sign the book last year - wanted to take pics, eat and leave. You guys had a ton more snow than even we did in mid-August!

I don't consider sunrise necessarily "early". When the OP talked about an alpine start, I was thinking 11 pm to 2 am boots on trail. I prefer to get up pre-dawn (4am) and moving within an hour of sunrise.

I used to get bad cramps in my hamstrings hiking out from a long climb. I tried Nuun and that stuff has nipped the problem in the bud.

Fixed that for ya. Prole's so folksy, isn't he? Drinking bud light on the couch on the front porch and telling all the downtrodden who will listen exactly what changes they need to make so that they can rise up against their Scotch and Bourbon drinking oppressors and free themselves from the bondage of consumerism. Or on a slow day, perhaps just sharing an organic fruit salad recipe he put together after a ride on the Metro down to the farmer's market. Prole is right, Bourbon is so high brow...

Sleep is nice. ;-)

Fixed that for ya.

Laphroaig is not bourbon, fuckwit

Whatever, douche! Just because you have no taste... don't get your panties in a wad.

With the moon

you've been sniffin' jenkem again, haven't you?

Or you could just sip 50 ml and enjoy.

Wow. Thanks for the heads-up... hopefully someone can check shit out and report with specific details.