archenemy

Not to be a total asshole here, but I have a hard time believing that you are capable of judging what women are worth knowing and what women are, presumably, worthless when you apparently rely on "simple concepts" to judge others by. I don't know, it just seems like a huge oversimplification of women who are a mystery to you and a harsh judgement on men who are different from you.

Maybe not, but I've been in the presence of that sort of thing. why didn't you stand up for yourself and tell that person to hang up?

No doubt!! I havent even met a women who knows or understands what she wants My guess is that you are either referring to youngsters or you believe that old stereotype. Little hint: When a gal says she doesn't know what she wants, sometimes she's telling you she doesn't want what she has seen so far, or else she already has all that she wants. Or, she's just stupid.

Agreed that the constant calling thing is irritating. However, I would be hesitant in handing out relationship advice if I were you.

You pointed out earlier that we are talking about p/w climbers here. Your climbing partner just sounds scared. And your other partner sounds shit outta luck. Personally, if my partner asks me to call during a trip, I will find a way to do it. I figure if I can accomplish the feat of climbing, I can accomplish the feat of communication. I will do whatever I have to in order to live up to my half of the bargain--in all relationships. But hey, to each his own and you gotta do what works for you--you're the one who gets to live with the reprocussions.

When the day comes that one of the reasons i bail on an expedition climb is that i can't call my fucking wife on the sat phone is the day someone needs to take me out back and shoot me in the fucking head. Anyone else out there do this kind of lame shit? If my climbing partner gave me that as a reason to bail I'd put my boot up his ass(w/ crampons on). I agree completly. If my fucking partner sudenly bailed on me on the west butt. because the phone was running out of bateries I would send them down with the fucking phone on their own and find someone else to climb with. What the fuck do you need a phone on the west buttress for anyway? Find yourself a new fucking-partner then. All I am saying is that the man made his choice. No one had a gun to his head. It's not like he would be divorced over a missed phone call. He backed off the climb under his own power. He admitted it to the world in an interview. Done. Mind you, I have never climbed with a cell phone. I started climbing before cell phones were a must-have item. I don't think I've climbed with a person who has a phone on them. However, I have had to back off a climb because my climbing partner felt he needed to back off. The only reason he gave me was that he "had a bad feeling". Did I think that was a bunch of shit? Sure. Was I happy about having to leave? Hell no. But am I going to bag on him because he couldn't keep going (for whatever reason)? No. Why not? Because climbing is like marriage--it's based on trust.

I agree with you about the frightening and extensive control over what information is spoon-fed to us. Just looking at the small number of people who own the majority of communications is enough to give one pause.

Exactly. It sounds like he's just blaming his wife for his choice. Sound familiar?

Speak your piece man, but don't even pretend to understand what women want. You are way out of your league on that one.

Crampons? She didn't even have a helmet on, did she? Of course, they are difficult to wear when you have your head up your ass.

I am not one much for conspiracy theories, and I did happen to hear about this book way back when. But maybe it was buried... Unfortunately, I don't think it would have made a difference. Obviously, people don't care--otherwise, how can we explain the support he got after his first term?

How do you manage good foot placement without looking down at your feet?

Or get her a vibrating phone.

Bringing up a carnival accident to highlight the dangers of climbing might not prove to be the most powerful arguement...

Obviously the government needs to step in here and provide us with a system like this:

You get beer for the right cam, more beer for the wrong cam.

Sure, just leave a quarter on the back of the computer each time you do. At the end of each month, mail in your fees to the management at cc.com.

Ah yes, the evil plans...

He's catching on. Chaps, maybe you should run for a moderator position...

Marie wins Fertilizer -- fresh from MN

Ever notice how Rainier looks just like a Bob Ross painting?

The Unibomber is jealous.

Pre-trial, pre-tug, whateva

That IS called handling it. Duh.

Scary.