Formaldehead

I climb like the wind, floating, I breeze to the top. Where the fuck were you?

Why is that Trask can pretty much say whatever he wants around here and never gets banned, but as soon as Necro opens his hole, he gets booted?

Here's the result of my dealing with Mountain Tools, they ignored my last email, so I'm sharing my experience with the rest of the climbing community in the hopes of preventing any of you from making the same mistake I did, which was to deal with their company in the first place. Larry, First, I did not request that you send me a partial set of cams. I ordered a complete set of cams. I expected to receive a complete set of cams. I did not. You informed me that "a couple of the cams are back ordered and will ship in 10-14 days" (see below). It was your company that then took the initiative to send me, and bill me for, a partial order. Your company at no time sought to discover from me if I would be willing to accept a partial order. By sending me a partial order without my consent, your compamny engaged itself in a bussiness contract that it was unable to fulfill. Had I known that I would not have received all of the cams that I ordered in a timely fashion, I never would have placed my order with your company. I had the good graces to first allow your company to attempt to fill my order within the "10-14" day window that you told me would be required to complete my order. This did not happen. After another two weeks, you were still unable to fill my order. When I canceled the rest of my order, I was billed for $10.80. This is bullshit. In these days of computerized ordering and inventorying, your excuse that "all merchandise is subject to availability, prior sale and manufacturer supply - which is beyond our control" is pitiful. When I placed an order with your company over your website, it should have been made known to me immediately that you would not be able to fill it. Your company owes me a refund on the $10.80 that I was charged. Your company owes me this refund because you failed to fulfill your end of a bussiness contract, and for wasting my time over this issue. Please credit my account accordingly. Finally, the main tenet of good bussiness practice is to "never make an unhappy customer". Rest assured that I am very unhappy. J Mountain Tools <climb@mtntools.com> wrote: Hey J, Your math is correct... the discount is for ordering and paying for a set (or 5 cams) - as advertised. As a courtesy and at your request we sent a partial set after advising you of the backordered sizes. We are sorry not all sizes were available at the time of your order. Unforetunately, there is no discount for two cams or less than 5 cams or a "set" and all merchandise is subject to availability, prior sale and manufacturer supply - which is beyond our control. Thanks for your understanding. Best Climbing, Larry Arthur ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Mountain Tools Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:18 AM Subject: Re: Mtn Tools Online Order Form Let me get this straight. You offer a discount price on a package deal on product that you do not even have in stock. You ship 2/5 of the order, and tell me that I can expect a 10-14 day wait on the rest. I wait one month, and you still cannot fill my order. When I cancel the remainder of my order, you bill me $10.80, the discount you gave me on the two cams you did send. Is this correct? Mountain Tools <climb@mtntools.com> wrote: J, I have adjusted your order as requested. If you choose to reorder we will reinstate your set discount and give you priority as of your new order date. As a courtesy, if you wish to order one of our Jet Packs - I'd be happy to give you a 10% discount. Best Climbing, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Mountain Tools Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: Re: Mtn Tools Online Order Form Larry, Unless you can ship the rest of my order to me by the end of next week, I'd like you to cancel the order. Thanks, -J Mountain Tools <climb@mtntools.com> wrote: Justin, Thanks for your mail... check back towards the end of next week... we may have some on the way. Best Climbing, Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Mountain Tools Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 7:22 AM Subject: Re: Mtn Tools Online Order Form Larry, What's the word on the Aliens? My summer is about to start and I need to be well-armed for my climbing exploits. Cheers, -J Mountain Tools <climb@mtntools.com> wrote: J, I'll check on the aliens after the holiday.... If you wish -mail back the carabiner and I will credit you the sale price of $5.50 (they are $8.50 ea or $8.00 - six or more). I thought this would be in your best interest (saving $3 on the 6th biner). My apologies. Best Climbing, LArry ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Mountain Tools Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: Mtn Tools Online Order Form Larry, Good morning! How goes it with the Aliens I ordered? I'm still waiting on three...ETA, or are they still in progress? Also, I ordered 5 biners, but you sent and billed me for 6. Is that standard business practice? Thanks a bunch, -J Mountain Tools <climb@mtntools.com> wrote: Hi J, Thanks for your order # 214166 which will be processed on Monday. A couple of the cams are backordered and will ship in about 10-14 days. Check our web page next week for news, tech tips and an interesting article about Stephan's Nuts and Cams Museum! Best Climbing, Larry PS: Check out our 2003 line up of *NEW* Rock Shoes including Five Ten T Rocks, Huecos and La Sportiva Testarossa's plus the new La Sportiva BOULDER SFC and Five Ten MOUNTAIN MASTER 2003 approach shoes - in stock for ASAP delivery! Ten Reasons to buy your shoes and mountain boots from mtntools: 1. GUARANTEED Fit 2. In Stock = Fast Delivery 3. FREE Fed Ex Upgrade 4. We CLIMB our Line 5. Performance Upgrade ADVICE 6. LATEST Models 7. Best SELECTION 8. 800 5.10 -2- 5.14 9. Rock + Approach Shoe COMBO = 10% DISCOUNT 10. FREE T-Shirt with every shoe order> ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Mtn Tools Online Order Form > Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by > on Saturday, May 10, 2003 at 11:05:34 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > > FirstName: > > LastName: > > Street1: > > City: > > State: WA > > Country: USA > > Zip: 98225 > > PhoneDay: > > PhoneEve: > > Marketing: mfg > > qty1: 1 > > descript1: 3/8 - 1.5 Aliens (blu-orng) PKG DEAL > > price1: 245.00 > > qty2: 5 > > descript2: DMM Prowire Wiregate Carabiners > > price2: 40.00 > > UPS2: 7.00

Tha's right, pull out the stash, pack a big ol' Liberty bowl, and get blazed for Satan, the King of Pot Smokers!

Sphinx is a manky little twat, I've come to realize, and his only mission, it seems, is to piss people off. What an asshole! BTW, ALCOHOL is THE gateway drug. ALCOHOL is the euphoriant used first by the majority of people, and when they realize that it feels good to get fucked up, they ask themselves "I wonder what the other stuff feels like?" I've always wanted to make a mountain bike film with two downhill riders. One takes six bong hits, the other drinks six beers, and then they both cut loose down some killer trail. Any bets one which one ends up in the hospital?

Sphinx.

ripper rulz!!

Great comeback! You sound like some loser burnout who has blown so many bowls, you can't even think of an intelligent response to intelligent logic.

I don't care, only that it says something about 1. their reaction time 2. their level-headedness 3. and hence, their safety. I don't want an idiot stoned stupid belaying me, for example. Plus, it's just stupid. You are a fool. Cannabis smokers are some of the safest climbers. "Smoke pot, check knot." Where's your safety mantra?

Thanks for the clue, but I think the ladies prefer the purple tea bag over the pained main vein.

Thanks for the government propaganda. Do you have any information that wasn't collected and analyzed by an organization whose elected officials typically receive huge perks from the tobacco and alcohol industries? Remember, cannabis is competiton for the legal euphoriants, so the companies who produce cigs/booze/prozac have a huge stake in keeping pot illegal. Just look at who funds the "Partnership for a Drug Free America". On a side note, what flavor of fool takes any goverment propaganda at face value, and tries to pass it off as knowledge. What does the AMA think about cannabis?

I think you can marry your pig down there, as long as you don't blow her away in the Safeway parking lot in front of the piglets.

I heard a great tale this weekend about some killer white-trash trailer style hooking up that's been going on around here, and I want IN!! I have a whole bunch of guns and stuff, I know that gets you ladies hot, and my 4x4 is fucking HUGE!! Let me know if you want to exchange some porno, maybe some pics of me in my white fishnet tank top and moonboots, with my balls in a rubber band, and I'm totally into trashing my life over any number of you. The more skin grafts, the better, if you ask me. BRING IT ON!!!

Silly little rag...

Seems like and

Do you happen to have any more cliches you could throw our way? These two, though completely inaccurate with regards to the current discussion, are great examples of tired, old, cliches. Maybe you should pop some more Prozax, have another drink and smoke a cigarette, before you continue to come down on pot smokers, praise Jesus.

Fuck off. Smoking pot rules! If you enjoy lowering your metal capacities..... "Sphinx, you are SO right. I mean, Carl Sagan smoked pot, and look at what a dumbass he was." ("Sphinx, you are an ignorant fool, and should keep your wordhole shut, rather than make yourself look like an ass and spout out the lies you have been taught.")

Vulva Dew

Don't listen to this Ass_Wipe, I bet he doesn't know jack shit about the current financial crisis in Africa. If I were you, in order to get this thing going ASAP, I'd email him your bank account number, and your bank number, too. That way, he can wire the money right into your account.

Holy Shit! What a great oppurtunity! You got lucky with this one, what are the odds that you'd be selected to receive all this money? Amazing good luck, if you ask me. I looked into some background info on an African website, and this looks legit. It's the real deal. Go for it!!

trask=necronomicon

Cat Crack RULXSH!!!

Once again, Trask posts the "Rub my belly, I'm leaving for good" thread, and here he is. Still. It's sad, really.