Ursa_Eagle

"...only stupid people are breeding... the cretins cloning and feeding... and I don't even own a TV" (that's from memory, so don't get too mad if it's wrong...)

What about something by Jawbox?

those were your first two threads, what could we have gotten out of it other than that you're a moron?

to quote a certain moron on this thread: three words: 1) pot 2) kettle 3) black This is just getting too funny! Actually, you have contributed quite a bit. I've been laughing at you all day!

FS, let me remind you of your first two posts in this thread... now there's a level-headed, unbiased person!

Good call Minx

you are avoiding the question yet again FS: Is bush a liar? it's a simple yes or no.

ummm, you're the one who keeps on bringing clinton up. the original topic (including the subject) is BUSH AND POWELL ARE LIARS. you're arguing with us when we say that they are. one question for you: is Bush a liar?

but it's a canadian patent... we laugh at canadian patents!

now this is just hilarious!!!!

a) we started looking for bin Laden 19 months ago, not 24 b) we invaded Iraq 8 weeks ago, not 2. c) in an earlier post, you mentioned 4000 popups. I counted 7 from 6 pages perhaps you wouldn't come off as such an idiot if you got your numbers right. you're about as credible as your hero boy, shrub.

FS: Bush did not lie toptimmy: all politicians are liars FS: exactly...i have been sayign taht the entire time... UE: so FS, now you're saying that Bush *did* lie? FS: no! you're miscontruing my words! he never lied! this discussion is over

I thought you've been saying that he hasn't lied...

what part of "we have proof that they have WMD", and then not providing said proof do you not understand? "we have proof, but we need to find it first"? The point being they didn't have the proof when they made those statements.

Bush made a claim and failed to produce evidence. I haven't been following the Dan saga, but it seems that people aren't believing his evidence. "You have WMD, and you have to prove that you don't or we'll come attack you" Now who sounds like Dan -?

as I've said before, PROVE IT As I've said before, they've proven it by not providing the evidence they based their justification for war on.

Trask: You're ignoring the fact that THEY LIED This is not about present or future. This is about past and actions that have already taken place.

They lied because they made based statements on evidence that did not exist. The key words here are in the *past* tense. For the purposes of this argument, it doesn't matter that they're coming up with new evidence now. They said they had evidence that they did not have.

Bush lied about this war because he said we had evidence we never had. If we have the evidence (which would support the entire war effort), why would he be hiding it? Should we be trusting him after he has shown he's a liar? "Leave no child behind"... only force them to cut 25 days off their school year because we're too busy funding a war we have no basis for.

Where is the evidence that he *didn't* lie? If they had enough evidence to go to war about it, why haven't they found it yet?

and will you also try and tell us that Iraq isn't about the oil?

How is invading another country for no real reason "legal"? And if there was a real reason, where is it?

umm, I do read news. We invaded a country and claimed it was for our own security.

I think we've determined that both presidents lied, but at least our previous president didn't INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY in the name of our own security. For all you people out there supporting Bush and criticizing Clinton, here's a question. How many people died because of the following lies: 1. I did not have sexual relations with that woman 2. Saddam has an advanced nuclear weapons program

I spent the extra cash on the Ascents this past winter and I have never regretted it. The heel lifters are definately worth the extra money.