Mr._Natural

synchronic audiotronic

philharmonic

masonic

hey mr geography what about tectonic?

hooked on electronic phonic(s)

dru said sonic. sup greg?

high colonic?

got a thang for Salt and Peppa Greg?

re yakima: lets not forget Miners, home of the biggest f'ing burgers I have ever seen. If you can take down a double big miner and a big ass shake and not puke five minutes down the road you are a better man than I.

I'm in, lets do it.

if'n ya'll dont know, u should look for a spyware free version of any file sharing junk like kaaza, limewire, etc. googlesearch for kaazaorwhatever.lite

its not getting the shit its storing it that I need. sorry back to the

wassup wit da mp3 database? pleeeze...

and then the penguin said... old news

BURNNNNN, yesterday I had the unique experience of sorting through and taking my pick from 2500! vintage LP's

Damn it matt, just when I thought we were done... Neither of us could remember (it was 7 years ago) leaving the obvious gully.

it wasn't discussed although the official spew sprayshaw fan club has now been established. join now!

For those that care... Over beers Bart, Matt, Mike and I discussed the whole Spindrift thing... Bart apparently issued the now infamous "correction" because to the best of his recollection, when we topped out we were very close to the westermost highpoint. If this were true than we could not have done the super prominant coulior which terminates close to the low point between the summit and the hight point to the west. However, after discussing recent ascents it is very clear that everyone has climbed the same line, the obvious one, not the verticle bushwack to the right.

except the correction, in my opinion is not correct. Matt and I are having beers with Bart sometime in the near future and will figure it out.

ok my language was too strong, I myself would not downgrade a pitch that I can't lead clean, thats just me.

I indicated that the spray is entertaining, not that it pisses me off. To me hanging/resting on screws is dogging, you disagree? perhaps I have no right to comment however as I didn't lead the pitch. I know I am wasting my breath by sayingthat the conditions we had were much thinner and basically forced us to take a different line that later parties. I guess it is my fault for not breaking out the camara. The over-verticle bludge is visible in mikes pic but there is no way to prove we had to climb it so fuck it. Your partner was very forthright about challenging Barts description of the difficulties. There was no "conditions disclaimer" in his language.

necro said: "IV+ WI5 5.9 Mixed according to Mason et al's draft guidebook" yeah, there was plenty of snow covered choss esp on the 2nd step. The crux pitch was thinner than later ascents (judging from pics I have seen) but still swinging, not hooking edges. We were forced to climb the buldge directly, cause thats where the ice was. I find the amount of spray that this route generates is amazing. My favorite was the guys that reported the "Spindrift 2nd Ascent" fully admitting to dogging the shit out of the crux, then suggesting it should be downrated. I keep trying to stay away for all of these petty debates, but you guys make it way too hard. Matt and Mike

it was givin IV+ WI5, what is this V shit all about? IV+ means a really long day for the average alpinist, those who are slower than average or who fuck up somewhere on route can expect to spend the night. sounds about right for the conditions I found.

sounds like he is in agreement w/bart in terms of rating