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Here come the usual canard about islamic terror in pizza and ice cream parlors. There has been plenty of Arab secularists who resorted to terror, as well as judeo-christian at different times of history, including today. It isn't clear what you and Harris reproach to muslims: is it that they commit suicide or that they commit acts of terror? Western and other cultures are as guilty of terror despite your and Harris' unexplainable blindness. Harris claims that mass murders of innocent civilians by judeo-christians are a thing of the past but it is a lie as Iraq in general and Fallujah in particular attest to. Your and Harris' arguments are thinly veiled islamophobia, and the few non-brown people who are Muslims don't make your arguments any less racist.
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It is funny because we all know that is pretty much what Fox's propaganda would have been at these moments in history.
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Fair enough, but I'll disagree that ignoring dangerous demagogues given unlimited access to an audience by huge radio conglomerates is the way to go. On the contrary, I think the boycott started by the California Rep is the thing to do. Advertisers have to assume their role in promoting hate speech one way or another.
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For a while I thought you had over sized the pics on purpose, which ought to tell you something about how much of a jerk you appear to be. As for that blog post you linked, it is so stupid I don't even know where to start but let's just say that the issue has never been a lack of "civility" in political discourse despite media propaganda to that effect but the fact that far right wing blowhards are given a huge bull horn by corporatists to incite violence against liberals and symbols of the state. If anything, this kind of exchange allows us to see who does the shilling for Libertarian corporocrats like the Kochs ,and sociopaths like Rand.
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so you guys are going to tell this Chinese American how he should feel, because you have all done it at one point or another? while millions of ditto heads listened to you perhaps?
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Let us remember as well that teabaggers didn't say a word during 8 years of attacks on civil liberty, 8 years of committing our tax dollars to foreign military ventures, 8 years of tax breaks for the ubber wealthy, etc .. and suddenly, once their man isn't at the helm anymore, they remember about the "tyranny of government". As I said, hypocrites.
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Citing is one thing. Doing it appropriately is an entirely different proposition. You are like these baggers who quote the founders of this country as if the citation supported their claims .. oh, wait a minute, it's what you did up there. I didn't address your points because they weren't relevant. Nobody asked you to answer my post. You did it all by yourself.
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get your garbage out of this thread or re-size it.
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You are pretending there is no difference between advocating sobriety and denying someone else the possibility of drinking. Hellooooo? To pursue your analogy, tea baggers are fully intent on preventing anybody else from having a drink under the pretense it is trampling their liberty while they keep drinking, which makes their hypocrisy abundantly clear. Not only am I not especially discussing health care except for illustration of tea bagger hypocrisy but I am definitely not discussing the health care bill that will do very little toward containing escalating health care costs.
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Cool. Has the Elwha drainage ever been clear cut?
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So you are going to deny that most tea-baggers and Ayn Rand share the same sociopathic ideology? That must explain why the great priest of tea bagging himself, Glen "father Coughlin" Beck, pushes Rand's drivel at every opportunity. I don't want to debate health care but you claim to want to stop the bleeding and expanding Medicare to everyone (i.e. single payer health care) would be a good way to start despite the anti-government ranting of teabaggers.
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anyone knows what they are planning to do with the sediment behind the dam and how long that will affect the river downstream. It seems like an interesting problem because isn't there still a small salmon run in the lower reaches?
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Tea baggers are hypocrites for doing what they deny others, like enjoying the benefits of single payer health care (medicare) while denying it to everybody else. If you want smaller government you ought to be for single payer healthcare for everybody because the ever inflating cost of the most expensive private insurance in the OECD for certain will bankrupt us, unless of course you are planning on denying access to the emergency room to the 50 millions uninsured, and counting.
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I am not arguing against eminent domain or discussing the details of the process. I am arguing against HYPOCRITES who couch their actions as necessary for the greater good, while they'll claim that similar actions by others is theft and the expression of government tyranny. Got it?
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Posturing to settle out of court for cost incurred is socialism according to dimwit central? who knew. "The injured tooth and the bone above it became infected. I took a course of antibiotics for the infection, had an adverse reaction to the antibiotics which caused me to have an intestinal obstruction and emergency medical intervention."
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more hypocrisy from those who never have anything bad to say about those who actually steal the property of others, like the Koch brothers for instance (the main source of funding for teabagging small government ranters): The Koch Bros. and Corporate Welfare 6. EMINENT DOMAIN Although highly diversified, Koch Industries' vast network of oil and gas pipelines remains the company's core business and main source of revenue. The exact size of their pipeline network is not known, but some estimate that Koch Industries operates anywhere between 35,000 and 50,000 miles of pipelines between Texas and Canada—enough plumbing to wrap around the globe twice or zigzag between New York and Los Angeles 15 times. How did the Kochs manage to build up a pipeline network of this magnitude? By getting the government to use its tyrannical powers of eminent domain forcibly seize private property on Koch Industries' behalf. http://www.observer.com/2010/slideshow/131739/eminent-domain
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I agree that it is your money and so does the article I linked, but I am not the one ranting constantly about public services, "ponzi schemes" and big government, while drawing benefits from them.
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Turns out Ayn Rand was as much a hypocrite as your average tea-bagger. Who knew? Ayn Rand Railed Against Government Benefits, But Grabbed Social Security and Medicare When She Needed Them Ayn Rand was not only a schlock novelist, she was also the progenitor of a sweeping “moral philosophy” that justifies the privilege of the wealthy and demonizes not only the slothful, undeserving poor but the lackluster middle-classes as well. Her books provided wide-ranging parables of "parasites," "looters" and "moochers" using the levers of government to steal the fruits of her heroes' labor. In the real world, however, Rand herself received Social Security payments and Medicare benefits under the name of Ann O'Connor (her husband was Frank O'Connor). As Michael Ford of Xavier University's Center for the Study of the American Dream wrote, “In the end, Miss Rand was a hypocrite but she could never be faulted for failing to act in her own self-interest.” [..] Ayn Rand Railed Against Government Benefits, But Grabbed Social Security and Medicare When She Needed Them
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Frances Fox Piven defies death threats after taunts by anchorman Glenn Beck
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"The key question is what should be done. A major increase in contributions is not realistic at this time. States and localities may have only limited ability to increase employee contributions, because some state courts have ruled that the public employer is prohibited from modifying the plan for existing employees. Higher contributions from new employees will take a long time to have any substantial effect. Thus, if funding levels are to be restored quickly, the money must come primarily from tax revenues. But the recession has decimated tax revenues and increased the demand for state and local services. Thus, finding additional taxes to make up for market losses will be extremely difficult. One small step that would be viewed as a commitment to responsible funding would be for states and localities to at least pay their full ARC. Otherwise, the only option is to wait for the market and the economy to recover." The Funding of State and Local Pensions: 2009-2013 Center for Retirement Research at Boston College
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did you lose your job taking orders at the drive through window?
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Still waiting for a source. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz The sentence you cited doesn't have to be referenced because everyone interested knows that some people made the claims mentioned. You may think that asking for an unnecessary reference is diversion enough to discredit the report I cited, but you are mistaken because the only thing you demonstrated is poor thinking (I'll reluctantly give you the benefit of the doubt for being in good faith considering the stupidity of your argument). But hey, you now got the sympathy of the morons. Congratulations!
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Are you clueless? the paper first said some people made claims like these, which nobody including you contested was true. Then the paper went about to disprove these claims. wtf is wrong with you?
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In other words, you aren't contesting that observers made these claims. Therefore, besides the hair-splitting nonsense, your request for a citation documenting a fact that is widely known to be true is entirely unnecessary.
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Boy, that was a funny one. Wasn't it?