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I don't get the Krakauer hating. What did the guy do exactly to invite such negativity about his character from some people?

so the euros aren't shoshalists today? their tax rates don't amount to extortion of the rich anymore? The only hyperventilating we heard on this very topic is yours and your friend's!

spare us the BS. I have been pointing at tax evasion and tax heavens for years on this board without even a single acknowledgement of the problem on your part. Clearly, the wealthy don't need any incentive to avoid taxation since tax evasion has hardly been greater than today even though the marginal tax rate is at a ~70 year low. What is very clear to me is that you keep making stuff up. Nobody that I can remember stated they wanted to retain all of the exemptions. because we can raise way more revenue by INCREASING the marginal tax rate AND eliminating deductions, and banning the use of tax heavens (including those existing within the US). There is no "law" that magically says that these actions are mutually exclusive despite regressive think tanks making stuff up that you uncritically regurgitate within these pages.

what's this nonsense about? How many times have you been caught red-handed feeding us neoliberal propaganda as if it were the gospel? You are quite some bullshit artist, that's for sure.

You claimed that increases in tax rates didn't result in significant increases in federal revenue, which is patently false despite your long winded diatribe.

Quit cheating! Not only your chart conveniently omits the huge rise in gov revenue during WW2, which demonstrates beyond any doubt that more revenue is generated by increasing tax rates, but revenue as a share of GDP includes ALL revenue like individual taxes but also corporation taxes and social insurance taxes. This is what the Hauser curve look likes when you take out social insurance taxes (blue curve): from here: Hauser and WSJ lying with Charts ergo as the marginal and corporate tax rates have gone down during the last 50 years, social insurance taxes have gone up by a huge amount to offset the decrease in individual and corporate tax revenue. Note the increase in revenue from individual taxes in the early 50's and in the 90's, as should be expected. Are you people so incompetent that you feel compelled to regurgitate Hoover Institution propaganda? Calling it a "law" doesn't make right wing drivel any more credible.

Are the vultures manipulating credit markets to enforce austerity? [video:youtube]_5CRuSXGF_o

Well, although comfortable by my standard, I am not wealthy but I am proud to pay my share of taxes and I wouldn't want it any other way. Some people would call it patriotism but it's not my shtick and I am content with understanding that I get it back in one form or another as long as the looters don't have their way with the treasury (as they unfortunately currently do).

Sure, some wealthy people know what's going on and are quite alright but I was generalizing to be funny; however, the evidence suggests that a large number of the well to do not only do not want to pay taxes but are actively engaged in politicking to avoid their republican duty, i.e. paying their fair share of taxes.

What the dude actually meant: Rich Greedy Fucks Don't Like to Pay taxes and They Are Quite Happy at the Moment Because They are Paying the Least Taxes in Nearly One Century. but I guess that wouldn't have conferred the right amount of academic credential to his bullshit.

among other earth shattering news, those who tend to be wealthier, tend to itemize their taxes, thus tend to donate stuff more often. I wonder how many years of painstaking research it took to come up with such non-intuitive observations. So, is this some frank luntz malarkey to rechristen greedy anti-tax regressives as "anti-redistributionist"?

so, those who oppose paying taxes tend to have higher income and had parents who could afford sending them to school longer? whew, that's quite some penetrating insight there buddy! LOL

isn't it amusing how regressives make up their own reality? I mean it's not like they aren't responsible for the largest upward transfer of wealth in history away from the middle class over the last quarter century. Denial isn't a river in Egypt even though propaganda about 'redistributionists' rolls off the tongue rather easily when corporate media spews that drivel 24x7.

Let's see him do it first before chanting victory because if you recall he has already promised that part once already. I wouldn't like better than being wrong on this but I am willing to wager that it will be at best a smallish tax increase on the wealthy compared to spending cuts.

Funny how right wingers suddenly decided to take Obama at his word although they accused him of lying non-stop since inauguration. Pay attention to what they do, not what they say!

"Representatives from the 77-member House Progressive Caucus gathered at the Capitol on Wednesday to roll out their plan to cut the deficit and put the budget back into balance. Their simple solution: pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, install a public option for health care, raise taxes on the wealthy and corporations and voila, America is fixed." duh!

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alright, are you done? you dished out/received enough abuse for today? sick puppy!

more pop psychology from the clairvoyant mouth breather on the Snohomish.

Seek help. where is Billcoe to defend another of your outstanding and substantial contribution to this "discussion", douchebag! LOL

Yeah, pretty much. That must explain why you failed to notice that Obama was regurgitating the deficit drivel and ignoring the creating jobs mandate.

what nonsense. Do you ignore regressive propaganda about debt and immediate doom, too?

The handy work of the redistributionists: