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each time you say freedom, i feel like vomiting, jackboot. Freedom for you is the patriot act, spying on Americans, doing away with habeas corpus, torture, extraordinary rendition, ...

right, who knows what might happen when uppity commoners actually try to enforce one person, one vote ... communism and gulags are bound to ensue.

I am not sure how anybody managed to go from fair elections to revolutionaries cutting off the heads of autocrats during the french revolution or the poor dipping into the till, because there is NO relation between the two.

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yep, that why no corporation spends any money on advertising. It's not needed at all. No siree bob!

yeah, they don't really need the advertising to push their junk. They are only spending 100's billions per year to inform us. Right?

On the contrary, I want the cramming propaganda down their 'dumbass throats' to stop.

you labor under the illusion that the poor won't reproduce all the depravities of the rich, once in power, or invent a good # of new ways to rape the public till either I thought we were discussing having the same rules for everybody because these rules would strengthen equal rights.

Wow. Uncage the inner bigot! Last time I checked, the 'gay' were well represented at all economic levels. Yes, its actually possible to be homeless AND gay! and? what's your point exactly? because some gays are poor, that makes of you an advocate of the poor? something's wrong with your logic. right, let's not forget you also deny the power of propaganda on the uneducated.

What is this? The 2nd wave of the Reagan Democrats?

what gibberish! if it were a carbon tax, we'd be talking. Cap and trade is a scam.

"well, there is no prospect of the job market improving for years and you are on your own, but the stock market is doing real good" TVash is coming up with a narrative to increase the popular vote LOLZ

Free the gay but fuck the poor who can't buy elections!

You're essentially the same kind of 'assumption junky' tool as FW and KKK, and you practice the same, unimaginative rhetoric crap. Boring. why are you so defensive SO your not being on the egalitarian side of things regarding fair elections is an assumption?

Um...you preaching to me about egalitarianism is kind of laughable at this point, considering how little you've done to actually make 'egalitarianism' a reality in any real sense. I realize that the progressive personality requires a strong sense of righteous elitism, but kindly save any bullshit unsupported by actual results for a more gullible audience. so you disagree with what I said? or you were polishing your crystal ball and didn't notice there was a point to answer?

I didn't say we should all be working on the same issues. I said that there is no reason to not care about other egalitarian issues because they aren't the issues you work on.

You'll also find out that if your promote egalitarianism in your practice of politics and other issues, you'll be much more likely to reach equal status for gay couples and weed smokers.

Nobody said that these issues weren't important but if you check out the exit polls you'll see that people are more concerned by other problems, like jobs. You may have something in your life that leads you to work on these issues, and that's fine, but there is also no reason to give a pass to DLC democrats on the issue of jobs or corrupt politics because we all suffer from it.

wow! check out the super-sized ego! IN the progressive world, we are egalitarians! get it?

The entire quote is there for everyone to see. What more do you want? I am entitled to respond to part of your diatribe if I want to. Helloooo?

wtf is wrong with you? what are you talking about?

How about sole proprietorships, limited partnerships, unions, fraternal organizations, co-ops, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc? democratic non-profit associations should be able to take part in elections. There should be spending limits anyhow.

Magic! Why didn't anyone else think of that? Has it already happened? What, not yet? Oh, shit, we forgot about that little execution problem.... If I could only dream myself to the top of mountains. Fucking climbing...too much work. Nobody claimed it'd be easy to beat back the corporatists, but it certainly would be easier if people like you stopped dragging their feet.

why should the playing field be level for a corporation you moron!