Paco

No beta, but I am interested in doing this route. Want to head up there this weekend and find out?

An old farmer was sitting on his stoop surrounded by his fields when a car pulls up. Out hops a strange man carrying two buckets. He comes up to the old farmer and says, "Say, I saw that you have a large field of buttercups over yonder and I would like to go out and fill my buckets up with butter if it's okay with you." The farmer looked at him oddly and said, "That's the craziest idea that I've heard yet, but go ahead and try if you want." So off went the strange man and sure enough a few hours later he returned with two buckets full of butter. The next day the old farmer was again sitting on his stoop when the strange man drove up. This time the strange man tells the farmer that he saw some fields of milkweed and wanted to fill up his buckets with milk. Again the old farmer thinks this is a crazy idea, but he lets the strange man go to it. A few hours later the strange man returns with his buckets filled with milk. The old farmer is baffled by this. A day later the old farmer is out on his stoop when the strange man returns for a third time. This time he tells the old farmer that he saw some pussywillow out in the fields. At this point the old farmer interrupts him and says, "Hold on, I'm coming with you."

Some GREAT South African Literature: The Power of One by Bryce Courtenay -a great story about a boy named Peekay growing up in South Africa. and My Traitor's Heart by Rian Malan -an incredible account and reflection of South Africa during Apartheid and the years up to its end

"Deserve death! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give that to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien The Lord of The Rings

quote: Originally posted by iain: rbw here's that pack in action. serious offwidth stemmin' action that is. SOOOOOWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!! I need to get me one of those.

iain, those are some crazy dudes. Sure to do a lot of spancering. Can you be spancerd by HORSECOCK Sign me up!

quote: Originally posted by Uncle Tricky: I didn't realized that SHUT THE FUCK UP now came in a can. Is it "dolphin friendly"? The freeze dried variety ain't so bad--if you mix it with corned beef and hash! "Mommy, what's for dinner?" "SHUT THE FUCK UP, dear." Yeah, they're right on the shelf next to the can of whoop ass. "Mommy, what's for dinner?" "SHUT THE FUCK UP, dear." "But Mom, I wanted to open up a can of WHOOP ASS."

I thinking about picking up a pair of half ropes sometime soon and am interested in the Sterling Marathons. Anyone know who sells them around here? -Paco

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: quote:Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Your argument goes wrong in failing to look at the situation from more sides than just one, i.e. America's. The terrorists who killed so many innocent people on 9/11 saw their way of life threatened somehow, and engaged in an act of war to preserve their way of life. Flashboy; Who said that we have to look at the situation from any other side than ours? Did we look at the side of the Japanese in '41? In 1942 did we look at the "other" side when we committed to war with Germany? Maybe the Jews WERE a threat to the German way of life; we could have realized this if we stopped to look at the "other" side. You are wrong in your assumption that the terrorists "saw their way of life threatened." Their goal is to EXPAND their way of life by DESTROYING ours. THAT is the reason this act of war was perpetrated on innocent citizens of our country. Regarding your "collateral damage" question. The people murdered in the World Trade Center attack were not "collateral" (i.e., secondary); they were the primary target. Ask yourself if you are willing to fight for what you have and defend your way of life. Greg I ask myself that question, would I defend my way of life, and I answer yes, but going to war with Iraq? I do not see how Iraq poses an immediate threat to my way of life. We are talking about making a pre-emptive strike against another nation because we perceive some kind of threat. In desert storm we attacked Iraq, but that was in response to their invasion of Kuwait. We invaded Afganistan because their government was not taking action against known terrorists and in fact they were knowingly harboring terrorist. I cannot condone the actions of terrorist organizations or suicide bombers, but I also cannot condone bombing the fuck out of a country and toppling its government because we have created a false perception that they pose a threat to our way of life. RobBob, sorry, but we haven't been attacked by Iraq yet.

quote: Originally posted by kashmir: I love it this topic has almost generated as much spray as my DATING SERVICE idea. you people are all sooo awesome. HEY WHO WANTS TO START A DATING SERVICE????? Yeah, I'll get back to politics a bit later. Time to make love, not war. Now where's that dating service thread again?

Beautiful, I expected nothing less from all of you, but Paco will be no gringo's bitch. Sooooo sorry to dissapoint all of you.

Winter, you failed to include the 5 gallon bucket of chalk that is often seen with said sport climbers.

Hello fellow climbing peeps. I feel that I have been lurking on this site for too long now so I've decided that it's time for me to start chiming in. Forget all that smack talking about this site from Lambone, this shit is funny, and, occasionally, does contain decent information. I went back and read the thread on Sweet Granite in Renton and it brought a tear to my eye. That was really well done. Reminds me of a time when I was the sucker. A few climbing buddies of mine packed my backpack for me. They told me it contained an extra rope and gear, but as it turned out I was lugging around a 10 pound rock all day. It's all good. Also, the picture of the dude in the silver all-weather vest is absolutely hilarious. All this helps the day go by much better while I'm stuck here at work behind the computer looking out the window at the beautiful blue sky and wishing that I was climbing or at least in the mountains. Till my next post... Paco A knife, that's not a knife. That's a partner release.