RuMR

all i know is Rikke Ishoy is HAWT...

B I N G O

taking someone's pic is completely different than posting it in wank land for everyone to take potshots at...

that is true...everyone has their own line and i dearly loved each and every one of the pets i had and i missed them...BUT i drew the line a little closer than where Minx and Carolyn have drawn it...I am, after all, only answering Minx's original question of "how far do you go for YOUR pet?" and also explaining my rationale.

personally, the photo should have been removed. Neither party wanted it "published" on the web and it was NOT anonymous. The guy was right to ask to remove the photo...he didn't post it... has nothing to do with 1st amendment rights. This is a privately owned site and therefore not subject to constitutional stuff... also, the arguement could be mad that its analoguous, imo non lawyer mind, to asking for a model release if you are going to publish someones image on a site that would be governed by 1st amendment... and, if it is legal, its just shitty if the guy asked you to pull it down to not. Personally, Trash, i'm glad you removed the photo if it was you...if it was not you but a mod, well, you're a fuck bag then... bob, why don't you post up some images of YOUR wife and then sit back and not go ballistic. THe counter to this is the guy who posted the image of his fiance the other day FULLY had all of the shit flung at him by sexchoco coming...

yes kk...that is my exact point. Pets are LUXURY anyway you slice it...

one question for Carolyn...do you think that extraordinary efforts to extend a life unnaturally are right? Human or animal? There is much to be said for recognizing dying for what it is and not fighting it inappropriately.

hmmm...that is what i meant by "recalibrate" muffy! Growing up, my dog meant the world to me...i didn't realize how small my world actually was until my real babies got here...

one last thing is that its our society that we live in that affords us the "luxury" (which i would deem waste) of uber-care for pets. Just recognize that we are talking about LUXURY and not necessity...

So would it be pointless to treat an 87 yr old for cancer, just because they are pretty darn old for a human? Some people do believe that any living being is equal (animal, human, plant, insect). In that case, I would take care of my cat with as much care as my 87 yr old grandma when ill. The process of the beings death is vital to its rebirth (not reincarnation). So, bringing your ill pet to the vet, hearing there is no hope, and pts immediately may not allow for a good death/good rebirth. Read the Tibetan Book of the Dead (or Tibetan Book of Living and Dying) for more information on the subject. In some cases, the above scenerio might be the best. I truley believe each situation is unique. There are definately those who stay too attached and have a harder time letting go. I struggle daily with my situation and whether its my cats spirit and will to continue in this life right now OR my attachment to her being in my life. What I do know is if I had her pts immediately (my vets advice) she would have missed out on lots of playing, good food, brushing, bird-watching, snaffle chasing, and catnip highs. Her overall quality of life seems to outweigh the current complications/treatment for her condition. I personally dont regret one thing I have done to help my cat - despite her being near 16yrs old. I would have regretted NOT doing something and wondering. And, yes, I do believe in another life she did or would have done the same for me - the best she could! Thats just my belief. I really do wish I could see the life of an animal as black and white as some. Sure would be less emotion for me to go through! carolyn, to me your first point is moot as i do not hold that animal life is equivalent to human life. If you feel that your cat is equivalent to your mother or grandmother, well, what can i say??? My guess is that you do not have children, they do a lot to "recalibrate" exactly what true value is. But to each their own... The rest, well, lets just say that we have philosophical differences... DeC to you man...you seem to have a firm grasp on nature and cycles... Minx...that's crazy! A DNR??? too stupid to comment on...

but at what price will you help an animal? I didn't say ignore it, but come on, a 15 year old dog is pretty damn old for a canine. And spending several thousand dollars to extend its life by a year or two is pointless...why don't you donate said funds if you have them to spare to charity in the name of Good Buddy or whatever you call your pet... Regarding homelessness, there are very few that find themselves in that predicament that didn't have some sort of fucked up start to get there. And i can extrapolate to folks that happened to be born on the wrong continent (say like maybe Darfur, Africa)? I recognize the emotional attachment that owners have to pets and that it gets translated to that "he's my little buddy and my responsibility" and that's fine...just recognize that what you are talking about is NOT a person and move on accordingly... AND YEAH, I EAT MEAT...

off has hit it on the head, the only reason i don't climb more as a parent has to do with TIME or more specifically, lack of TIME... We are all gonna die and we don't/can't determine when its gonna happen...

you know...i read this stuff about pets and their owners, and then i walk past a bum who hasn't eaten a decent meal in awhile and all i can think is...holy fuck, there's some skewed importance out there...said owners would probably cruise by that very human being without a second thought... Not to say i'm heartless, but i think spending inordinate amounts of $$$ to "artificially" extend an animal's life is stupid. THey have finite lives that are shorter than ours and i think DeC, while heartwrenching, made the right decision to just end the suffering quickly and with the dog knowing him as the last thing before he moved on. Personally, Minx, i think that your posing this question is your answer...

don't bother with vertical...complete waste of space...

hey...seattle takes the cake! We have no pink and no kevboned!!

truth is, we threw kevboned out of seattle...

Nookie? What's this "nookie" thing? Where can I get some? its that thing you have when you send the kids to the grandparents house for the weekend Lucky you. Grandparents that will actually *take* the kids off your hands for a while. you need to make some good friends in the same situation. and then trade weekends once a month. that way one weekend a month you have extra kids and one weekend a month you have NO KIDS. i didn't realize how much i needed the time until i got divorced. now the whole 50/50 thing totally RULES. I think fewer people would get divorced if they had time to work on their relationships. IMHO. DON'T FORGET TO EAT YOUR "VEGGIES" TOO

never let it be said that i can't please a woman, errr rabbit...

kevin...KK has been smacking you down...you'd best leave him alone...o' course i'm sitting over here rolling...

I think this is more Minxy's vegetable of choice...errr size...particularly if you want her in a good mood

amazing what a good climbing trip can do for sour grapes...

crap...can't see anymore...things are fuzzy...can't make out the porn on ths screen anymore... well, this is an unexpected turn of events...

seahwaks...quit beatin' off...god says you'll go blind and its just WRONG....its in the bible..

prolly should be relabeled seagullIBLE... problem with the islamic jihad nutballs is their radicalism and theirs is the only way...sounds just like right wing christians too...