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so you are saying that you will never ever as long as you live use another peice of fixed pro?

I agree with Rumer. I don't LOVE the gym. But I go and make the most of it because with my schedual and priorities that is what I have time for. it helps keep me strong and fit. helps me blow off steam that I probably wouldn't other wise and then I would just be a cranky mommy. Who wants that? Why must we talk down our noses to anyone??? will some one please re post what dru once posted about climbing as a religion I love that

In my opinion if you are currently clipping bolts at all, or use any kind of fixed pro as a current practice in your climbing you can not preach against it with any validity. How ever, if you choose to quit, you then have the right to be as much of a self rightus ass whole as you want to be

I went and looked last night, they are on hold for me. I feel like I am getting them for free because I am using my rei dividend. but I am getting the 5 step black dimond. I hope I like them

Thanks MINX we are agreeing again I still wonder about chi though... thaty stuff packs a wallup

I get my aiders tonight WOOOOHOOOOOO

chocolate is my big cheat. I do TRY to avoid it though

I do believe it does. I am no expert... but I KNOW chi does... ask arround. I had to quit cafiene totaly for medical reasons, and was told that tea is worse than coffee

COOL That is sort of what I thought. I think that I can Learn a system, even if I can't climb 5.12 I will ask Tex, That is a great Idea... Thanks

I have a hard time dealing with the fact that some one disagrees with me???? that is a bit like the pot calling the kettle black isn't it??? I think you are off track because you have admited on this bbs to cliping bolts. There for I don't think you get to tell any one that they can't. People with great lives don't drink beer for breakfast

hey snowboy SHHHHHHHHH don't tell, but I think we will be up in squamish this summer some time for our family vacation.... I will let you and Fern and Dru know so maybe we can all meet for some climbing and pubclubbing

Dwayner.... just because you *THINK* something does not make it correct. Each person must find there own way. You are a dupicitius old fool. One of the basic truths is "one must live how one believes" it is so clear that you do not do this. I feel sad for you. this i sjust my point in that intelectal learning only takes you so far. Mastery comes when you can take what you have learned, what you believe and live by it flawlessly. People might take you more seriously if you DIDN"T ever clip another bolt again as long as you live.

that pretty much what my kids said too. I have never had a cookie last SO LONG in my house

they couldn't be sour apple though... maybe sour grape(s) HAHAHAHA...good pun...they truly have their sour grape faces on, don't they?? Remember pop rox?? THose ruled!! you can get pop rox cookies now

they couldn't be sour apple though... maybe sour grape(s)

Lemon cause I like my tarts tangy ... but the true BESTEST candy in ethe whole world is sour apple laughy taffy

DFA FYI Chi Tea has more Caffeine per cup than does coffe. Most black tea has more cafiene for that matter just stick to the decaf tea and herbal infusions if you are looking to quit... Hot choclate has cafeine too. yo don't need to Quit COFEE that is not what has you by the short hairs... I gave up Cafeine eons ago and gave up smoking more than a month ago I RULE

that must be one of the reasons I fell in love with you

Thank you Fern

I realy like the Luna bars too. I find regular cliff bars to be sort of heavey and they just sit in my gut Lunas are lighter in consistancy. I don't have to take a nap after I eat one dryad salty is good

this sounds elitist... I would want to know... but I don't think I would want to be arround if the general masses knew. That would be awful. People are so stupid. they would be running threw the streets screaming instead of telling loved ones how they feel and making peace. speaking of making peace with ones self anyone read Planet Largo in R&I???? I read it last night and I cried uncontolably for like an hour

WELL HOW DO IT GET IT TO YOU??? there are many optons I will pm you

Has any one tried the new Cliff MOJO snack bar???? Curry cashew is yum and I liked the honey rosted one too

I will be in touch when I come up I think the only reason I feel like I can solo is because I am so familure with the climbs where I will be prcticing. And I will be on top rope with my solo device so I don't get any booboos I just want to get my system down so it becomes second nature.