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Have they been snagging them too? They also didn't take 33.7% of the run. Their ancestors had a bit more respect for the environment.

Don't forget to say "fuck you" to everyone of your 600 representatives too.

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The more new cars I see out, the more I like my truck. It gets better gas mileage than the new subarus and it was born on the same month and year I was.

They build weirs on the rivers and use the submerged shopping carts to make sure every fish goes into the weir. Total devastation of the run. Yes, they "fish" with this.

aluminum block.

Sorry pillowbiter, I like the team I am on, thanks.

Shut up queerbait.

Plant a Tree, Make a Difference: Muck Creek Planting Project Please join the Nisqually Stream Stewards and Pierce Conservation District Stream Team for a riparian planting project along Muck Creek in Roy, WA. We will be restoring native vegetation to stream banks to improve and protect salmon habitat. Help increase the quantity and quality of salmon habitat along Muck Creek by planting native trees and shrubs along the stream banks. This day is part of a larger project that started with students from around the watershed planting roughly 1400 plants earlier this fall. We now need to complete the project by planting additional trees and shrubs and protecting the new plantings. Please bring appropriate clothing and footwear ? we will go outside rain or shine! Gloves & tools will be provided (as will warm beverages), but feel free to bring your own. Saturday, December 4th Time: 9:00 a.m. ? 12:00 p.m. Place: Muck Creek on Warren Street (Roy, WA) Contact: Kirsten Workman, Salmon Recovery Outreach Coordinator (360) 438-8687 kworkman@nwifc.org --OR-- Pierce Conservation District Stream Team (253) 845-2973 Directions to Muck Creek Planting Project: Take Hwy 507 into Roy Turn West onto Water Street Turn Right onto Warren Street (just after railroad tracks) Follow Warren Street over Muck Creek to first driveway on the right. Limited parking, please carpool if possible. There is another on Issaqua creek on the 11th (sat?)... anyone wanna carpool to these? Let me know.

There are also several stream rebuilding events in December. Planting trees to restore habitat. If there is interest I can post the dates for these events.

If you closed the Nodder thread. Would Dru commit suicide? Or just get a life?

If you are wondering why I am so pissed about "empty" waters being delisted, check this out. REDMOND -- Kokanee salmon, long in decline, are spawning in the Sammamish River in three locations within city limits. ``There aren't that many runs of Kokanee left in the Sammamish watershed,'' said Peter Holte, the city's habitat stewardship coordinator. Kokanee are rare, and one of the three local runs was declared functionally extinct in a report issued last year by King County, which called for further study of the surviving populations in order to better coordinate conservation efforts. Kokanee are a rare variant of sockeye salmon (Oncorhynchus nerka) that took a different evolutionary turn sometime in the past: Instead of migrating to the ocean after they are born, they stop and mature in freshwater lakes before heading back upstream to spawn and die. ``They're genetically coded to do this,'' Holte said. ``They're sockeye salmon, but because they display this behavior they're kokanee.'' The name ``kokanee'' comes from a native word meaning ``red fish,'' Holte said, and it describes the orangish color the fish take on during spawning season. Because of their diet, kokanee tend to be smaller than their seafaring cousins. The kokanee currently in the river seem to top out at about 14 inches, Holte said. A severe decline Historically, kokanee could be found throughout the entire Lake Washington/Sammamish watershed. The populations have declined severely in this century, up to the point that the Issaquah Creek run was declared extinct last year. Hans Berge, an aquatic ecologist with King County's Water and Land Resources Division, said that the presence of kokanee in significant numbers in the Sammamish River would be good news from a broader ecological standpoint. ``It means that survival in the lake is improving,'' Berge said. ``It's a good sign to see kokanee around. It's kind of an indicator species of freshwater habitats, too,'' he said. Recent return The kokanee that are currently spawning have come back to the river only in recent years, Berge said, but they have been shown to be a native, rather than a transplanted species. Native runs of kokanee are rare, found mostly in the Lake Washington/Sammamish watershed, the Lake Whatcom watershed and in some locations on the Olympic Peninsula. Kokanee in Eastern Washington tend to be introduced, and in fact many runs in the West were introduced from Washington state, Berge said. According to a county Department of Natural Resources and Parks report in October 2003, which Berge co-wrote, kokanee spawn in the larger tributaries of the Sammamish River from September to November, and in tributaries to Lake Sammamish from late November to early January. The late-run kokanee are typically larger in size, up to 17 inches long. The extinct run spawned in August and September in Issaquah Creek. In 2001 and 2002, only a handful of those early-run Kokanee were seen. Berge intends to get out to see the kokanee himself today to gauge whether they are indeed kokanee and how large the population is. ``It's a good start to the year,'' he said. Chris Winters can be reached at chris.winters@kingcountyjournal.com or at 425-453-4232. KOKANEE SALMON SPAWN IN THE SAMMAMISH Kokanee salmon have been seen spawning in three locations in Redmond this year: under the Northeast 85th Street bridge, a little bit farther north in the habitat restoration area and up in the stretch of the river between the Redmond 74 housing development and the Willows Run golf course. Redmond Habitat Stewardship Coordinator Peter Holte will be at the bridge location from noon to 12:30 p.m. today to answer questions about the fish.

Pretty much. Why can't they leave my goddamned fish alone! Fuck! They are already fucked as hell! I remember when I was a kid I caught more fish than I do now and I am 100times better now. Sad. Nova Scotia's cod, Europe's salmon... soon we will be a statistic as well.

Motherfuckers!

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002105390_salmon01m.html

I can't believe you are looking up pagetops in the archive.

Dru, your link is amusing, but why would a public school teacher have any more right to present a gay lifestyle than she would creationism? This is where your side runs into a wall. The same liberals who scream bloody murder at the thought of creationism being taught in schools are the same ones who want to push homosexual doctrine on 3rd graders and cite fictitious statistics about 10% of the population being gay. Maybe if you kept your agenda out of public schools, the religious right would be more inclined to moderate their own as it relates to education. Maybe they would even stop pulling their kids out of public schools! Sooo.... if Dru keeps his agenda out of public schools then the right wing freaks will keep their claws out too? Done deal. Dru! Works for me.

Exactly... fundamentalists. Just as the Muslim community speaks against fundamentalist Islam, the same holds true with Christianity. Has anyone here claimed to endorse this behaviour? The percentage of people doing this is almost certainly less than 1%.

Regardless, an incredibly small amount of Christians actually believe in true Creationist theory. What is your point? You still attempted to imply that the terms were interchangeable. Are you now willing to admit they are not?

It predates Christianity by thousands of years.

Might as well toss in the Hare Krishnas and almost the entire traditional Native American beliefs.

I never said they weren't did I? I also asked what you were trying to prove by this. There are infact non-Christian Creationists. They are called Wiccans, Muslims and Jews. Lets pretend there aren't any. What then are you trying to prove?

Me too considering you have never even met me and you are the one who made the ascertation that I was spoiled.

Please provide links to Jewish, Islamic, Buddhist, etc. creationists? DBDubya... there is where it is. Obviously Dru is implying that these are interchangeable terms. pointed out that they were not. Then he changed his position to all Crationists are Christians. I still disagree, but would like to know what this would prove. I find it rather funny that you (plural form) are commenting on my English comprehension. So, are you going to answer the question? Or are you going to mire yourselves in the same kind of thinking that you are accusing your opposition of?