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(reaaaaalllly long address, I know) http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/RTGAMArticleHTMLTemplate/C/20020511/wxpris0511?hub=homeBN&tf=tgam%252Frealtime%252Ffullstory.html&cf=tgam/realtime/config-neutral&vg=BigAdVar iableGenerator&slug=wxpris0511&date=20020511&archive=RTGAM&site=Front&ad_page_name=breakingnews Here's an excerpt: "The correctional service, which has a zero-tolerance policy on drugs and alcohol, would continue to test for tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in marijuana. But it would act on positive tests only when the drug use is considered to be a problem for an offender and there is concern about increased criminal risk. The proposal might, for example, lead to fewer people returned in prison for using marijuana after their release, and fewer disciplinary measures against prisoners who test positive. The paper describes THC as a soft drug that sedates prisoners, reduces their propensity for violence and does not impair cognitive function and perception as other drugs and alcohol do. It says THC use does not lead to dependence, has few side effects, even with heavy use, and is not a gateway to more serious drugs such as cocaine and heroin. It also says there is only a weak relationship between THC and criminal activity." I think this is the first time I've seen the effects of dope accurately represented by the media!

If no one else claims it, i could use one to wear around town and keep my cell phone/keys in.

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=002079

Something I found werkt fer me: If you volunteer with the WTA on specific days/projects, you receive a free day pass, that states you're a volunteer doing work in the area. Two of those passes and you can trade them in for a freebie annual pass. Now, I'm too lazy to go through the process and actually trade them in, but I throw the same volunteer day pass on my dash, and have yet to have a problem.

"he can take pride in a well-executed piece of work, and delights, as we do, in the beauty of the air craft, when he feels that in it the technical goal has been realized by properly adequate means." -Heisenberg

Alright, here's the blurb from the other list: ***There are many more types of sugars than those three but they are the most common. Glucose is the type of sugar that we use in metabolism - before any other type of sugar can be used, it must be converted to glucose. Consuming pure glucose will increase your blood sugar very rapidly (it has a high glycemic index). Fructose is similar in structure to glucose, but must be converted to glucose in the liver before it can be used, this is why it does not increase blood sugar very quickly, and therefore has a surprisingly low glycemic index. Sucrose is a disaccharide, which means it is two sugars attached together, and these two sugars happen to be glucose and fructose. So before sucrose can be absorbed in the small intestine, the enzyme "sucrase" cuts it in half and you then get a glucose and fructose. Not surprisingly, sucrose has a glycemic index right in between glucose and fructose. Starch, which is usually our main source of carbohydrate as humans, is composed of very long chains glucose. Pure starch can be digested very easily, and although is considered to be a "complex carbohydrate", it alone, or in very refined products such a white bread, has a very high glycemic index. They all provide energy, and the energy required to get glucose from fructose and sucrose is very small, so they can be considered equal in energy based on the amount (weight) consumed. This comes out to 4.1 Calories per gram. By the way, big-C "Calories" actually means "kilocalories", which is a thousand little-c "calories". So an apple, for example, has around 100 Calories = 100 kilocalories = 100,000 calories. They continue:<does it realte to food groups and what is essentially good and bad?For climbers (an other athletes) what is the best way to think ofthese sugars in terms of consmuption in times of active and postactive movement.> *** During exercise and post-exercise, it is best to consume foods with a high glycemic index that are easily digestible, such as sports drinks or those Goo packets. Around exercise, because our body is actively using up sugars to fuel muscle contraction, the rapid increase in blood glucose is not a problem, it is in fact helpful. Personally, I don't consume anyting but water unless my workout is longer than 2 hours. Glycogen depletion is probably not a problem in that period of time. But, carbohydrates post-exercise is definitely a good idea, because we are able to pack carbohydrates into the muscles more quickly at that time. Sports drinks and goo are fine for this, but a bagel with jam, a banana, or fruit juice are all acceptable, because they digest fairly quickly and have fairly high glycemic indices. Most people I know prefer to eat "real food" over supplements. Also, real foods have more vitamins and minerals which are useful too. If you are having a long outdoor climbing day, you don't need to worry about it as much, just snack on things that are high in carbs, low in fat, low-moderate in protein, and have low or moderate glycemic indices. Lastly, none of them are "good" or "bad". Some are more appropriate sometimes, and others are more appropriate at other times. If you eat enough of any one of them you'll get sick! Hope this helps,Andrew Pacey -----Really, really friggin long, and probably way, way more info than you wanted, but hopefully it's clear enough . . .

Dave- There's a Yahoo group, trainingforclimbing@yahoogroups.com, that would probably be able to answer your question clearly. I'll post it and see what they come up with . . .

Yep, and if anyone's heading there from the Eastside, I could use a ride. . . . Thanks . . .

Anybody from the eastside going to the Mt. Rainier meet and pub club after that I could catch a ride with? My car's in the shop.

I've managed a natural remedy store for three years, and have heard tons of good reports about how kickass glucosamine, chondroiton, and MSM are for people with joint issues. A few things to keep in mind: You get what you pay for, check with the staff to get reputable brands. Some forms are more absorbable, so again check with the staff. There's a lot of crap out there that doesn't work, and a few good ones that do. Good luck!