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now i'm in doubt about even your identity. are you truly Cobra Commander?

hey since when was fish listed in the vegetable group?

the image of muesli dribbling out of your butt-hole is one i wish wouldn't have been introduced in this thread, but i was veggie for a few years, but when i started getting more into climbing, i was starving for MEAT! it seemed like i couldn't climb hard without craving it bad. and i still feel badly about it at times from an ethical viewpoint, but you gotta do what you gotta do, i suppose....

some bosses don't like to be ignored, and if they are the idiot savant top .00000001 math proficiency types, they might just take it out on their school-supplied calculators, which then comes out of the tax-payer's pocket, so i wouldn't do it if i were you please.

the number of climbers getting on any friggin' 15 is small. and from that small sample, there is actually some difference. take realization. sharma: 5'11" or 6'? 160 or 165? patxi usobiaga: 5'9" 130 lbs? millet(?) quite small and light? seems like some variation to me. but your point initially seemed to be that routes at that level are so specific that only a very specific body type will able climb it from a pool of "a lot of body-types climbing different hardest shit", and what i'm saying is that i don't see evidence of that. maybe if you listed the climbers you are thinking of, and the routes they are trying, i might see the point you are tryin gto make. and you better be quick, cuz i'm almost out the door to go replace some suspect bolts with pins out at world wall.

of course it isn't necessary, but it might be helpful in letting people make up their own minds inre banning, since they at least get ONE side of the story (obviously the other side ain't here to present theirs). dwayner was annoying, and that's what he got off on (attention), but was he really that much more annoying than the rest of us frequent poster shits? nah i don't think so. he was just able to get under people's skins; i don't think he should be banned for that.

ahhh an ego game it is, then.

ahh ok you were the big boss man, i get it. and you actually had to deal with the idiocy of a lowly ta. fuck'n a that sucks. maybe your ta thinks you're a dick?

well yngve it simply sounds like you need to get your shit together. is it really all that hard to grade a few student papers? I mean, he did ask and you didn't do your job. get on it. you knew your rig when you signed up for service, so quit whining about it.

thanks for the link. pretty cool shit.

i can't quite say i have a correspondence with the mad chap. so, the reason? an ego game he has with you perhaps?

too many body-types are climbing the hardest shit to allow this assessment to bear weight. not that there aren't exceptions....

Since you're here, why was dwayner banned?

oh look, it's a picture of distel climbing.

Oh look, it's a photo of distel climbing.

skiing at the new? i'm more into snowboarding than skiing.

Your multiple talents cease to amaze me.

I always imagined you with thinner ankles. Huh, funny.

oh my gosh, i have to go now....

So to clarify for those not know the route. After the first 10-15’ Dwarf Tossing (DT) joins All Purpose Duck (APD) and Snow White (SW). After 25’ or so APD veers right, DT/SW continues up (what else) SW. So in a pitch ending at the first ledge of SW we have 15' of new climbing. After that the route is same as the old Snow White. We freed APD thus my comment bolded above. We only claimed a first free ascent not the first ascent. We gave it the name APD because it had no name. I never claimed to have freed all of Snow White. Had I would have claimed the FFA not the FA. I will admit to failing on TR trying to free SW after doing APD and never returning. The title of the thread I linked to is:”Adding a bolt to Midnight Rock.” My question to SC was direct and cordial his response was as follows: At the time I thought it was not a direct and honest answer. As I said later in the thread I can care less about the bolts. I was asking a direct question about bolting existing routes and offered silliness. Readers can figure for themselves who is spinning. so if an existing aid line gets a different start and gets freed, is it a new climb....that's the question, right? to me, it's a new climb, to you it's not. ok, fair enough. I don't see what else there is to argue about.

I would suggest that if someone wants to have a "serious" discussion about some topic, they don't put the thread in "spray". The moderators are expected to do a much tighter control job in non-spray threads. I also think things can go too far, but when someone jumps in emotively in a "spray" topic, then complains about the "bs", that's silly and I can't take it seriously (not you in this case).

Speaking of Index, can anyone say Numbah Ten?

ok so the last remark was a bit cynical. but what's the cost?

I think rumr has it right: it's spray. you guys want some final answer, when it's obvious there isn't any final answer. people will discuss this stuff, argue and bicker, and at the end of the day, will the planet have stopped rotating? will all bolting controversies have come to an end? will dcramer finally have a clue? NO! it will go on and on and on. and? so what. in the big scheme of things, it just ain't all that important.

Dude, you're so full of crap. you don't answer direct questions (did you climb it? did you do all the moves?), you complain about spray, but you dive head-first into it with recriminations and accusations.