sexual_chocolate

Man, you're right about ice-climbing being easy, FOR THE MOST PART. Now don't get all ruffled, all you ice-climbers, but you basically always have something to hold on to, and YOU decide where to go, NOT like how bolts seem to always tell you where to go. I don't know though. Over-all, I generally prefer sport-routes, yet you can get me on some trad lines once in a while. By the way, no one really knows my gender. Plus, what would it matter anyways?

From what I can deduce, MATT is a stalker and should NOT be given any personal information. At least according to Matt Anderson.... So DRU, near as I can tell, you don't like Jon Krakauer because you perceive him as "egotistical"? So I take it you will not be reading his next book, simply titled: ME.(Jon Krakauer.) "A moving novella, disguised as a tome, about the inner-life of an egotistical climber." By the way, Moondancing IS the glue that holds the universe together. Moondancing is the GUT. Stephen Hawkins, your search has come to an end!

Has anyone here actually KISSED Jon Krakauer? I never have....

I must go on record as saying I have NEVER shared a belay-stance with Jon Krakauer. Was he sexy? Norman Mailer is definitely NOT sexy. Who thinks Jon Krakauer is sexy?

Or should we talk about Norman Mailer instead?

Whereas Doug seems to feel that "Jon Krakauer" doesn't exist. He's just a manipulated perception, and shouldn't even be talked about. Hmmmm.... What do YOU think? Should we or should we not talk about Jon Krakauer? Well?

So lizard brain thinks there IS a reality, something objective that stands apart from our perception, and it's our perception that changes or distorts it. Whereas JBlakeley seems to feel that there is NO reality, just our perception, period. Hmmmmm.... the plot thickens....

Jon Krakauer is no.... Norman Mailer.

Who is the best writer of all time? I say.... NORMAN MAILER!!!!

Goldangit, who the heck likes Norman Mailer? Damnit, and do we climb mountains or do they climb us? ANSWER ME!!!! And Sisu Suomi: puhutko suomen-kielta? Terve suomalainen! Tykkaatko Norman Mailerista?

What the hell is "climbing", anyways? Seems kinda silly to me, and then to WRITE about it. God help us.

How about Norman Mailer. Do you guys and gals like Norman Mailer? Do you think he could have written a good climbing book? Is there such a thing as a "climbing" book? Do we climb mountains or do mountains climb us? Matt Anderson, what the hell do you think?

hollyclimber. thanks for the info. I was kind of joking, but I really did feel what I wrote. Why didn't you like Into the Wild? And DRU, it seems as though your example has more to do with philosophy than with the rantings of an egomaniac. "It was" vs "I saw it as" seems like the difference between someone who "knows what's what" and someone who is careful about asserting an objective reality. After all, what is beautiful? [This message has been edited by sexual chocolate (edited 10-17-2001).]

Actually, that was lame on my part. I just ran with an initial, un-thought out response. My apologies. I read Into the Wild, or what ever it was called, and if I remember right, it was really too emotively portentious. The whole book rested on something quite awkward and mechanical. But I also remember his writing to be solid, like perhaps the writing of someone who built concrete irrigation ditches for a living. Or the basements of department stores. NOT wigwams or yurts. Definitely something from concrete and perhaps rebar. He is not a gardener, this I can tell. He is someone who used his hands to make a living, at some point in their lives. Or at least read about it. Is this true? Was he a construction-worker at one time? Or did he read about it? Does anyone here know if Jon Krakauer has ever read any books or how-to manuals on concrete construction theory? LET US KNOW.

Ummm....Could it be.... Satan? (Jealousy is one of the seven deadly sins, no?)

Matt Anderson. (Nice name!) Did the feller Justin finally get Amandla? Did you belay him?

Amandla. Amandla.

It goes up the stem corner, then traverses right, under a roof, then up a left-hand arete for thirty feet or so. And I think Amandla means "freedom"?

Thank you Wallstein, for the beta. I shall attempt said climb this weekend, weather permitting.

You are going to go aid it next Tuesday? Am I understanding you correctly? I did want to free it....

hargh.

Hey Lambone, balance on what? I remember something for my right foot down low, two little smear-bulbs up high for my hands, left side and right side....and then, futile grunting with no upward progress. What the heck?

Does anyone have any beta for one of the most infuriating climbs I have recently tried? It's the stem corner, "numbah ten" or "ten percent" or somesuch, just left of Iron Horse, if I remember right. At Index. Couldn't even get started! Anyone?

Hey DRU, you're kinda getting it, but like I said, it relies on terrific foot-speed and sleight-of-foot tricks. Those guys are definitely way too one-dimensional.... Someone on this forum recently personally witnessed the splendid dance that is known as the Moondance....

Hey! Where did everybody go? Are ya practicing Moondancing?